Keltec RDB - anyone have any idea when these may be available in Canada again?
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My friend feels a bit confused now....the user manual says ammunition can be 5.56 or .223 and my friend bought the rifle advertised as having a 5.56 barrel. He checked the barrel and it is stamped .223 . He’s already fired 2 boxes of 5.56 through it without incident though. Guess he won’t be doing that anymore.
I fully understand your position, you or Kel-tec would be legally compromised if you did not.
I'm of the position that there is no way manufacturing would add costs by spec'ing a different barrel except for length just for the small Canadian market when a simple dedicated export stamp would do the trick. I followed up my suspicion by chatting with those who seemingly would be in the know and they confirmed.
I and they could be wrong, hopefully the 5.56 gauge I ordered will offer some confidence either way.
Cheers.
I'm of the position that there is no way manufacturing would add costs by spec'ing a different barrel except for length just for the small Canadian market when a simple dedicated export stamp would do the trick. I followed up my suspicion by chatting with those who seemingly would be in the know and they confirmed.
I and they could be wrong, hopefully the 5.56 gauge I ordered will offer some confidence either way.
Cheers.
As mentoned earlier I purchased a 5.56 gage from Michiguns LTD. Here is a copy and paste of their desciption of use for this gauge.
"This gage tells you if you have a chamber that is 5.56 NATO (or larger), or something shorter/smaller.
The gage looks a lot like a headspace gage but it does not gage headspace. It comes with its own rod which you thread into the tapped hole in the back of the gage. Unload and open your rifle, pull the bolt group, make sure the chamber is clean so there is no false reading, and drop the gage in. If the gage's shoulder "clinks" off on the shoulder of the chamber and the gage drops or pulls free without sticking or resistance, you have a chamber that is 5.56 NATO or larger. If the gage goes in and wants to stick, as in, you let it in and it pulls with a little resistance, or you try and turn it but it does not turn freely, you are short of 5.56 NATO and probably have a .223 chamber. You can color it up with a Sharpie, put it in and spin it (clockwise) to observe where it's contacting the chamber first.
Note that the gage will also stick in a .223 Wylde chamber since the Wylde's freebore is smaller in diameter than the 5.56 NATO's. It's my opinion that the Wylde chamber ought to be OK with 5.56 NATO ammo, but I have not delved into this scientifically. I don't own anything with the Wylde chamber, so I have no first-hand experience with it. The smaller freebore, I suppose, would make it more crud-sensitive.
The newly designed (3/15) handle acts as a case for the gage, preventing loss and damage.
Probing either a .223 SAAMI or .223 Wylde chamber with this gage will not harm the chamber unless you decide to really try by hammering it in. Don't do that."
This gauge drops and pulls freely without restriction into my RDB .223 chamber with a clink off the shoulder and spins without any binding whatsover. Draw your own conclusions from this.
And always remember often it's best in the long run to STFU. lol.
"This gage tells you if you have a chamber that is 5.56 NATO (or larger), or something shorter/smaller.
The gage looks a lot like a headspace gage but it does not gage headspace. It comes with its own rod which you thread into the tapped hole in the back of the gage. Unload and open your rifle, pull the bolt group, make sure the chamber is clean so there is no false reading, and drop the gage in. If the gage's shoulder "clinks" off on the shoulder of the chamber and the gage drops or pulls free without sticking or resistance, you have a chamber that is 5.56 NATO or larger. If the gage goes in and wants to stick, as in, you let it in and it pulls with a little resistance, or you try and turn it but it does not turn freely, you are short of 5.56 NATO and probably have a .223 chamber. You can color it up with a Sharpie, put it in and spin it (clockwise) to observe where it's contacting the chamber first.
Note that the gage will also stick in a .223 Wylde chamber since the Wylde's freebore is smaller in diameter than the 5.56 NATO's. It's my opinion that the Wylde chamber ought to be OK with 5.56 NATO ammo, but I have not delved into this scientifically. I don't own anything with the Wylde chamber, so I have no first-hand experience with it. The smaller freebore, I suppose, would make it more crud-sensitive.
The newly designed (3/15) handle acts as a case for the gage, preventing loss and damage.
Probing either a .223 SAAMI or .223 Wylde chamber with this gage will not harm the chamber unless you decide to really try by hammering it in. Don't do that."
This gauge drops and pulls freely without restriction into my RDB .223 chamber with a clink off the shoulder and spins without any binding whatsover. Draw your own conclusions from this.
And always remember often it's best in the long run to STFU. lol.
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Now now....while I didn't purchase a Keltec from Distributor V, I did purchase a Keltec from another Distributor X.
While I can't comment on Distributor V's warranty, I can tell you that Distributor X didn't provide any warranty for my 1 month old Keltec rifle....
Distributor X didn't even want to help at all.
While Distributor V went above and beyond to verify something for me. Distributor V didn't have to do that....
I am glad you had exceptional good warranty coverage from IRG.
Mine wasn't through IRG.
The point is, even though I didn't purchase my Keltec from Distributor V, Distributor V was very helpful resolving my problem.
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I don't know what kind of alternate reality version of the site you're using, but Vault only ever repeated the information they had at the time, which came directly from Kel-Tec. The Vault account stated very clearly, multiple times, that he had to err on the side of common sense and recommended treating the gun as if it was a .223 Rem chamber since that was the direction he had from the factory.
I don't know why you continue to grind your axe against Vault for trying to answer people's questions as best they could. Maybe you just enjoy being a troll account?
