Keltec RFB, worth buying or avoid ?

In BC where am having success in the trees find the bullpub form factor useful. If sitting on a cut lot or plain then form factor less useful (and may be able to stabilize non-bull pub more easily). There have been posts about that accuracy is not sub MOA but need to consider that shooting in the field not the same a shooting from a concrete bench... hence in terms of functional accuracy the weight sitting between strong hand and shoulder and short OAL is likely to provide more accuracy than rifles that shoot sub MOA off the bench. Also don't need 1 MOA for a 6" circle at 100m. Tried a few different loads last week (mostly because only .308 had loaded up was for a ladder test in an other rifle...) and found that AOL on the short side worked well (2.75) and the gas system very tolerant.

That said, a $500 bolt action will do the same thing in a different way so its purely a matter of satisfaction and value to you. The catch is that this rifle at ~$2,400 is ridiculously priced when looking at materials and workmanship compared to other rifles at this price point (but then they are not non-restricted SA bullpups...). Being fully aware that ARs are restricted, the RFB is about $500 more than an Armalite T10 with match trigger, 20" stainless medium profile stainless match barrel, no plastic parts... Or a Sako bolt...

As an aside, the spacers in the handguard split when I removed them (screw stayed in sleeve, spacer split/separated), e-mailed Vault, reply next day, spacers in the mail the following day, 5 days later a followup call to ensure that I had received them. Exceeded expectations in warranty service so no worries in that respect.

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Request to include mag type and loads if posting that found mags that work well or accurate load. Cheers. Will do same when 150 TSX load setup.
 
Cr5

My RFB likes 42gr of Varget under 150 gr Sierra BTSP with CCI 200 primers. I've just started reloading and don't have a crony yet. The RFB is the most consistent rifle I own and is even better than my Black Special.

Bill
 
Mine set up for hunting.

VXIII 2.5-8 x 36 for the medium to long range stuff, a FastFire II riding piggyback for the close in stuff..PERFECT for dogging

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What is that magazine plate/pull/handle on there? I've never seen anything like that before.
 
FWIW, Mine is a Gen1 and I've played with a few Gen2's. Here's the main differences:

Gen1: Spot-welded piece of heavy-gauge sheet steel with a particular bend acts as the impact surface on the bolt carrier for the gas piston and the piston itself is very tight sealing with AR15-style gas rings. The gas system is coarse-adjustable, something like 20 clicks before it runs out of adjustment.

Gen2: TIG welded machined block of steel acts as the impact surface for the gas piston. The piston itself is more cheaply made with looser-tolerance integral piston rings like an AK piston. The gas system is fine-adjustable by over 40 clicks before running out of adjustment.

Gen1 pros: The gas system is more realistic and quicker to adjust. The gun is overall a bit lighter. The gas system is tighter with zero blow-by.
Gen1 cons: If you don't read the manual and crank up the gas adjustment willy-nilly, it's possible to break the impact tab out of the carrier or even shear the lugs off the gas cylinder. If you do this, you are also likely to pull plastic bags over your head or run with scissors.

Gen2 pros: The bolt carrier is more solidly build at the cost of a few more ounces of weight. The piston is designed such that the lugs cannot be sheared off. In short, the gun is more idiot-proof.
Gen2 cons: The gas sytem takes all week to adjust with way too many superfluous fine-adjustment clicks. You have to drop the foreand and clean around the cylinder more often as the looser gas piston suffers more blowby than on the Gen1. The rifle is a bit heavier.

Frankly, I don't feel disadvantaged with my Gen 1 and would buy either with confidence.

The factory mags SUCK HARD. I now run Israeli surplus mags in nice condition and they are flawless. I keep the follower lightly lubed where it contacts the inside surfaces of the magazine which seems to assist a bit.

If you shoot past October, invest in a kydex cheek rest. Trust me.
 
Mine has never missed a beat running RRA Polymer mags.

Great rifle in the bush.

I like to sling it across my chest tight....that way you can cover some ground quickly.

Did that this year for Elk hunting ended up catching up with the herd I was chasing....and we caught a 325" 6x6.
 
Something is sure, when they become available again, one is in my future, having my first bullpup, might as well make it a 308... JP.
 
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