Kid vs the 45-70 guide gun

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For all you guys who find the 45-70 Guide gun a handful...inlcudes me.....Here's a video of my 11 yr old nephew who weighs all of about 65lbs shooting my 45-70 Guide Gun...no, I wasn't there, his big brother shot it,..so he HAD to shoot it too....

Load is 44grs of IMR 4198 under the 350 Hornady....I think he did quite well...:D..good follow thru and he didn't drop it on the concrete...:)

I guess he put three or four rounds thru it....I don't know if this was the first shot or not....but I'm guessing it was...the look on his face suggests he was bit unsure of whether it hurt or not....but he pulled thru with a thumbs up...gotta love it...:cool:

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If that kid is/was an inexpierienced shooter, he would have dropped that rifle, no doubt. He has had some trigger time, and will only get better. The first time I shot my Dad's rifle, I received a large cut abouve my eye. I did have a flinch the next few times I shot, but it taught me to listen to the old man. It was a light 7mm RM, and I was 8. This fella did very well.

R.
 
If he wants to shoot it then he should shoot it. I gave my boy a 2.5" 410 and told him the 3" kicked more. He shot the 2.5" and then asked for a 3". Not everyone is scared of guns. Me I started with a 270. A 45/70 might have been too much first time out. But thats me. All my buddies were scared of the huge 30'06, so it was easy to get psyched out.
 
The first 45-70 I shot was a Springfield 1884 Trapdoor rifle with Black powder loads, I was about 13 years old. It rang my bell pretty good, though I do remember scoring a first shot ten at 50 yards with it, then continued to bring in a respectable 42 to 45 out of 50 to finish the target. The other 45-70 I shot at about the same time was on H&R Shikari single shot...that thing was just brutal and i gave it back to dad and he passed it to my older brother to shoot. My dad was watching closely as I shot both guns and afterward suggested we try something a bit lighter at the next match. We tried a 38-55 Winchester 1894 (didn't shoot worth beans), then an 1892 Winchester 44-40 (with a patched 0.420 round ball) shot like nuts and was easy to shoot for me. I eventually went back to shooting the 1884 trapdoor and bought it from dad in a midnight gun deal for $200...I still have the gun in the collection. Thus began a love affair for the 45-70.
The young fellow in the video may have got his bell rung but I suspect he will develop the same love of the big gun and cartridge as I did...if the dad approaches it wisely. Try to download the rounds a bit to get him used to the gun and put more rounds down range with it and he will be just fine. If he keeps hammering the daylights out the kid it will just hurt he kid and he will develop a fear of the thing, rather then a respect for it.
The look on the kids face was more of a "Holy Crap" look then a "Cool...that was fun" kind of look. I still have very fond memories of shooting the old trapdoor in early spring with snow on the ground, I can remember the smell of Black powder from those days.
Cheers
 
"Whoa!" Covers it nicely. He still had control of the rifle too. A very decided, well done!
"...rang my bell pretty good..." The 70 grain BP loads I shot out of a Trapdoor carbine when new, but far older than 13, rang bells I didn't have. No internet in those days to tell me carbine loads used 55 grains of BP.
 
I don't think he enjoyed it, but he handled it very well . . . off the bench no less! If I took enough recoil to cause that much muzzle rise from the bench, I'd be running home for mama! I agree though, his exposure to that kind of punishment should be kept to a minimum.
 
dudu said:
I would say he was surprised and hurt by the recoil. Thumb up was just for the audience, but look beyond the forced smile.
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Yes, I observed the same thing.
This should be in the catagory of, "How not to teach a young person to shoot."
 
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