The thing is that lately I see a lot more good than bad. That is why I thought they may have changed something. I have not heard of a single 84L with feeding, accuracy or other issues. The same certainly can't be said for earlier models.
Kimber 84L Montana
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The thing is that lately I see a lot more good than bad. That is why I thought they may have changed something. I have not heard of a single 84L with feeding, accuracy or other issues. The same certainly can't be said for earlier models.
Jordan Smith
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That could be part of the reason but one thing I've noticed is that no gun manufacturer producing an ultralight will give an accuracy guarantee, so there must be reason for it. The closest would be Weatherby's Ultralight at 1.5 MOA, which isn't really much of an achievement.
But back to the 4 groove rifling? Any thoughts?
Hard to guarantee a certain level of accuracy when most shooters can't drive a flyweight rifle any better than 2MOA, even when the gun is capable of better
Maybe they're trying to jump on the 5R bandwagon, but went with only 4 to cut costs
In all seriousness they probably just found that it tends to shoot better, or is easier to manufacture, or something. I'd be interested to hear their response.
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- AB foothills
Is anyone in Canada carrying the Forbes rifles or have plans to?
If there is I doubt I would go that route myself anyways, but that's just me. If I was going to go back to a push feed LW mountain rifle I would most likely just build or buy another lightweight 700. I have owned a handful of LW 700's and don't see any advantages of going the Forbes route other than saving a few ounces.
I do know for sure that I would buy another 84L in a heartbeat and probably will so I can go back to the original plan I had with this rifle from the start. Please remember that this thread is about the new 84L and not the older 8400. Anyone who has used them side by side will know the differences, I personally think Kimber got it right with the 84L as I mentioned earlier.
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- AB foothills
Everything I read before buying was positive as well. And I had really good luck with the recent 84M so that helped.
A few years back we bought my father a 8400 Montana in 270WSM and it was OK but nothing to brag about. I sent it to Dennis Sorrenson for bedding and a cut and crown job and even after that it was mediocre at best. I will never purchase another 8400 as I was not impressed at all.
Now, just to decide what to do next... Build him a custom pre 64 Winchester as I have the majority of the parts already or, just buy him an 84L and be done with it.
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- AB foothills
Now, just to decide what to do next... Build him a custom pre 64 Winchester as I have the majority of the parts already or, just buy him an 84L and be done with it.
I guess it depends on what you have already. The nice thing about a custom is that you can choose twist, contour, chambering, LOP etc etc. Of course you will probably end up spending more and having a heavier rifle. Ah...the joy of having such "problems"!
I'm hoping that Forbes rifle makes it here with it's left handed step cousin in tow. Kimber has it so far from right, er um left, that it's embarrassing.
In an imaginary world, where all is well, you know what the 'L' in 84L would stand for?
Now, just to decide what to do next... Build him a custom pre 64 Winchester as I have the majority of the parts already or, just buy him an 84L and be done with it.
Well, an 84L would be less expensive, lighter, quicker too get and a dang fine rifle... but, it still wouldn't be a Winchester Model 70 FW and some people (me & E) have a real thing for the old M70...
How about you contribute something useful, for a change? Or, go away. Please.
The adults are trying to have a conversation...
