King Optics
- Thread starter DOUGLAS D
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Very true and that's the whole point behind my original question.
At $700.00 plus they may be "cheap" but they arent inexpensive.
At $10,000.00 US for a Cape Buffalo plus airfare and hunt, saving a few shekles on a scope is poor economy.
My original plan was to try one out on the .338 first mainly at targets and if it held together plant it on the .375.
I dont think I've ever heard this much bad press on even Tasco or Simmons in the last 20 years so point taken.
The whole subject came up because I've watched South African baggage handlers and customs agents handle rifles and the thought of putting a Schmidt and Bender in their hands gives me the willys.
- Location
- calgary alberta
Douglas
Having been to Africa and seeing how much rifles were treated by the baggage handlers 2 things I am very glad of having.
1) a very good case, I watched helplessly as my gun case was dropped out of the loading door of the Boeing I went from Calgary to Frankfurt in, the case suffered a major dented corner and 1 wheel eas sheered off totally. and
2) that I was running high quality optics as they survived the drop and rough handling.
On my 2 rifles I had NF on 1 and a Leupy MK4 on the other.
Next time I head over to the dark continent both rifles will be wearing NF scopes.
In my opinion a cheaper scope is far MORE likely to fail from transit issues than a good 1.
As you mention DG hunting is NOT for the faint of pocketbook, so why take a chance on cheap optics?
Having been to Africa and seeing how much rifles were treated by the baggage handlers 2 things I am very glad of having.
1) a very good case, I watched helplessly as my gun case was dropped out of the loading door of the Boeing I went from Calgary to Frankfurt in, the case suffered a major dented corner and 1 wheel eas sheered off totally. and
2) that I was running high quality optics as they survived the drop and rough handling.
On my 2 rifles I had NF on 1 and a Leupy MK4 on the other.
Next time I head over to the dark continent both rifles will be wearing NF scopes.
In my opinion a cheaper scope is far MORE likely to fail from transit issues than a good 1.
As you mention DG hunting is NOT for the faint of pocketbook, so why take a chance on cheap optics?
Nightforce is one that I hadnt given much thought to but anything that can claim can stop a round of 7.62X39 and keep on ticking certainly fills the bill.
If the choice was between NF or Schmidt & Bender in the compact line is there one that has any real advantage over the other? (I dont own either right now)
I'm looking at 100 yards maximum in fairly heavy brush and thorn so fairly heavy crosshairs or post and crosshair.
Illuminated is good because as you already know the sun goes down fast where the buffalos roam.
- Location
- calgary alberta
Both are top notch optics. Personally I prefer the NF as I do not like the fact that the reticle changes size as it does with all FFP scopes. To some this is not an issue and for ranging it makes sense, I just prefer my reticle to be the same size inside the scope regardless of the power of magnification and to use a LRF for ranging.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
"Cheaping out" on optics I find is the one most common failing I see amongst most once a year hunters personally.
I can't tell you the number of times, Silverback & myself have been at the range, and the once a year hunter, show up about this time of year only, with a great whatever nice magnum rifle, 100 dollar box of twenty rounds, and a 100 dollar scope on an otherwise nice shooting iron.
They don't reload, and they require your assistance, because they have no binos or spotting scope, and no idea where thier rifle shoots.
Often we do help out but......
(most often these guys work in the oil patch too, so cash is a plenty!??)
What can you do?
PS: I have a dislike for cheap glass! But that's just me.
I can't tell you the number of times, Silverback & myself have been at the range, and the once a year hunter, show up about this time of year only, with a great whatever nice magnum rifle, 100 dollar box of twenty rounds, and a 100 dollar scope on an otherwise nice shooting iron.
They don't reload, and they require your assistance, because they have no binos or spotting scope, and no idea where thier rifle shoots.
Often we do help out but......
(most often these guys work in the oil patch too, so cash is a plenty!??)
What can you do?
PS: I have a dislike for cheap glass! But that's just me.
- Location
- calgary alberta
"Cheaping out" on optics I find is the one most common failing I see amongst most once a year hunters personally.
I can't tell you the number of times, Silverback & myself have been at the range, and the once a year hunter, show up about this time of year only, with a great whatever nice magnum rifle, 100 dollar box of twenty rounds, and a 100 dollar scope on an otherwise nice shooting iron.
They don't reload, and they require your assistance, because they have no binos or spotting scope, and no idea where thier rifle shoots.
Often we do help out but......
(most often these guys work in the oil patch too, so cash is a plenty!??)
What can you do?
PS: I have a dislike for cheap glass! But that's just me.
I am with you on that!!
King Optics is not cheap to buy, they just look and smell of cheap
The price tags should mean decent optics, unfortunately in this case........
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yes, the new 'scam' huh.......poor quality for big bucks!I am with you on that!!
King Optics is not cheap to buy, they just look and smell of cheap
The price tags should mean decent optics, unfortunately in this case........
"It cant be cheap....I paid oodles of cash for it!"
"I can't tell you the number of times, Silverback & myself have been at the range, and the once a year hunter, show up about this time of year only, with a great whatever nice magnum rifle, 100 dollar box of twenty rounds, and a 100 dollar scope on an otherwise nice shooting iron.
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The ole "Barska on Blaser" syndrom eh?
Havent seen it myself but I'm sure it happens daily.
Did have one of my targets shot up by a nimrod shooting a SMLE at Sherwood Park range a few years ago.
He had 200 rounds of 20 cent ammo ,a Bushnell scope on a side mount and as I recall he drove bus for a living.
Worse yet he had offspring with him.
location of assembly
I finally had a chance to get out to 1 of only 2 firearms places this spring that are in my area. I don't know if I can say their name but it was Paradise Kayaks in Louisburg Nova Scotia, just 20 minutes outside Sydney NS. He sells kayaks, firearms and hunting supplies and he is also a gunsmish. I was actually looking at some kayaks but ended up talking about rifles. First thing that bothered me was he was smoking in his business which is not allowed. His shop is in his yard next to his house. Somehow scopes came up in our conversation and he brought out the king optics scope, their demo that has been dropped probably 1000 times over. Looked like it was taken to a wire wheel to make it look more damaged and started a speal of this is what you need and nothing else compares. I mentioned the bsa and bushnell scopes I had and he bashed any and all names mentioned. I said to him I'm not going to put a $1000 scope on a $200 rimfire or let alone my rifle that works fine with the bushnell it has. He kept on about how well their built and blah blah blah was all I was hearing because after he called what I had garbage I didn't want to hear anymore. So while I was there he showed me his back room and said he could only open it for a second and inside were all the king optic scopes, and assembly area, boxes, hundreds of parts. He told me that he assembles them. Don't get me wrong the place was clean but if you seen the place and met who was selling them then you start to wonder why there are so expensive to make.
I finally had a chance to get out to 1 of only 2 firearms places this spring that are in my area. I don't know if I can say their name but it was Paradise Kayaks in Louisburg Nova Scotia, just 20 minutes outside Sydney NS. He sells kayaks, firearms and hunting supplies and he is also a gunsmish. I was actually looking at some kayaks but ended up talking about rifles. First thing that bothered me was he was smoking in his business which is not allowed. His shop is in his yard next to his house. Somehow scopes came up in our conversation and he brought out the king optics scope, their demo that has been dropped probably 1000 times over. Looked like it was taken to a wire wheel to make it look more damaged and started a speal of this is what you need and nothing else compares. I mentioned the bsa and bushnell scopes I had and he bashed any and all names mentioned. I said to him I'm not going to put a $1000 scope on a $200 rimfire or let alone my rifle that works fine with the bushnell it has. He kept on about how well their built and blah blah blah was all I was hearing because after he called what I had garbage I didn't want to hear anymore. So while I was there he showed me his back room and said he could only open it for a second and inside were all the king optic scopes, and assembly area, boxes, hundreds of parts. He told me that he assembles them. Don't get me wrong the place was clean but if you seen the place and met who was selling them then you start to wonder why there are so expensive to make.
website
Their website for king optics show his address, so you would think he is the owner and also the building it shows is his building but someone did some photoshop work to the pic and added the names to the building and added grass and trees and made the building look new.
Their website for king optics show his address, so you would think he is the owner and also the building it shows is his building but someone did some photoshop work to the pic and added the names to the building and added grass and trees and made the building look new.
No
Why should this be deleted, people have asked before about these optics and where the facility is so what is wrong? What I wrote is from my experience with the owner "Nick" and what he said to me and what he showed me is the truth. Also if he went about trying to sell me king optics a different way instead of bashing other manufacturers and my stuff I bought then this would never have come on here. Just wrong business and he also did say my scopes were made in china but I'm sure some part of his were manufactured there.
Why should this be deleted, people have asked before about these optics and where the facility is so what is wrong? What I wrote is from my experience with the owner "Nick" and what he said to me and what he showed me is the truth. Also if he went about trying to sell me king optics a different way instead of bashing other manufacturers and my stuff I bought then this would never have come on here. Just wrong business and he also did say my scopes were made in china but I'm sure some part of his were manufactured there.
P0WERWAGON
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- burnaby BC كافر
easy Tex...... i think the delete was for his own post, not your thread
- Location
- calgary alberta
Stony
There has been alot of controversy over "King Optics" to have someone post 1st hand knowledge of the operation is of significant value to the Canadian gun culture.
I had been hoping for some time now that someone such as yourself, someone with easy access to the the manufacturer would step up and post some facts.
The spokesperson for King seems to be real big on dodging the questions when it comes down to the real important 1s.
Thanks for sharing.
There has been alot of controversy over "King Optics" to have someone post 1st hand knowledge of the operation is of significant value to the Canadian gun culture.
I had been hoping for some time now that someone such as yourself, someone with easy access to the the manufacturer would step up and post some facts.
The spokesperson for King seems to be real big on dodging the questions when it comes down to the real important 1s.
Thanks for sharing.
