Kleinguenther K15 Instafire questions

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Hi there:

I am looking for some info on the above mentioned rifle. I am looking at buying one and it is a 300 Winchester Mag. It is not the K15 improved as far as I can tell from books. It has a hinged floorplate and detachable clip underneath. The improved had a straight detachable mag. Is this correct? The gun is brand new and has only been test fired. It was ordered with the upgraded wood and an oil finish instead of the standard gloss. Beautiful piece of wood. Not a mark on the gun. The fellow selling it is firm at $1500 Can. Is this a fair price? How hard is it to get scope mounts for these guns? Any info will help. Thanks in advance.

Greg
 
I have a Voere Titan II, which is the same as a K15. It has a detachable magazine. I just bought a spare magazine for $140. They are hard to find. Anyways, the rifle is excellent, I've had it since new. A friend of mine has two, and is also very happy with it. Mine also has the oil finish, but IIRC, it was a no cost option. I've seen them go for $750-1100 used, so the price he is asking is up there. I believe mine was ~$1400 in the mid 80's. Bases and rings are not easy to find. You can go with Beuhler (if you can find a set) or EAW (which is quite expensive). I believe Redfield used to make mounts too, but I have yet to see them in real life.

I am not sure about the hinged floorplate version. Is that the M98 based version? If you post a picture I'll be able to tell. The Titan II was also sold as the Mauser 99 and, I think as the Mauser 200.
 
The K14 and K15 were both made by Voere in Germany, they were a 3 lug low bolt lift bolt action of very good quality, the K14 had a drop floorplate with a box mag that was released by a button on the right side of the ejection port. They were known to be very accurate rifles with very fast lock time and good overall finishes. They are a little heavy in the standard cal's but fine in the magnums, Weatherby like stocks apealed to alot of shooters. Very slick actions. They built all of the Kleingunther models as far as I remember. Voere sold these rifles under their own name also for less money than the Kleingunthers.$1500 is alot of money, but the buyer is the one that establishes the selling price of any gun. If it is really new in the box and you like it go for it, but I wouldn't bother @$1500 unless it was truly a NIB rifle and even then I would think hard ! There are lots of nice rifles today that can be had for that kind of money it depends how much you like the gun, make an offer and walk away that's what I would do, if the seller wants to sell it he will come knocking.
bigbull
 
I can't recall exactly the model designation but the Voere "Shikar" which maybe the K-14 was a bit of a flop according to Frank Dehaus. This particular rifle had the alloy trigger guard assembly with hinged floor plate. The safety was directly behind and attached to the bolt shroud, slightly to the right of center. These particular 3 lug guns were very hard to ####. The bolt face was counterbored and due to the small diameter, there wasn't very much material left to provide protection in the event of an overload and would often fail during a overload situation.

If I recall correctly this action was also flat on the bottom and top with an integral recoil lug.
 
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