Klunks reloading boner of 2009

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only me...

so I start loading some .308 match....lapua brass...168gr Bergerbullets

look up the data in the book...book flips a couple pages when Im not looking

end up loading the 7.62x51 to 7.62x54 specs....to the tune of some 60rds

anyway.......this puts the load 1.5grs over the maximum recommended charge weight

should I use em?....I reeeeeealy dont want to pull em....

they will be used in a K98 Israeli mauser...strong gun
 
What is the load?

60 rounds really isn't that many. I pulled 100 7 Rem Mags with an inertia puller once that had been loaded a few months before.

Better than losing an eye, a buddy or fellow shooter that is next to you or your life.
 
1.5 grains over in a 308 doesn't sound fatal,I would fire a couple and look closely for signs of excess pressure and quit if there are any.
I Once loaded 2 or 300 .357 way too hot,they jumped on recoil to the point the revolver cylinder would not turn,DOAF!! I distorted a kinetic bullet puller pulling them all.Sometimes you just have to,though.
 
Why not do a load step up from something you know is safe to this one and see how they go? Maybe they are all safe after all but I wouldn't jump from normal to them in one go.

But then I am a beginner.

Ryan
 
Myself, I would pull them. But hey it's your face and hands that will be inches away from the round when it goes off and your rifle too.
 
It would be safe, but I would pull them.

You have a load you'll never use again, so all you'd do is blast away to use them up. Why not save:

- the powder;
- bullets;
- brass (the hot load might loosen the primer pockets);
- primers;
- a wasted trip to the range; and
- wear and tear on you and the gun

and put together a load that might be a keeper?
 
1.5gn over book maximum likely won't be any trouble in a K98.

If t'wer me I'd do as unstableryan suggested and load 6 or 8 pairs of cartridges that work up to this load and see how it goes ie. check for pressure signs and accuracy. You may find that this load works fine in this gun and use it from now on, who knows, you may want to increase it.

Hell, you can likely find another manual that lists a max. higher than what you've loaded. 1.5gn isn't much.

If you don't have any more components just pull 6 or 8 of the ones you loaded. It beats pulling them all.

I've often exceeded book max. but it's not prudent to just up and fire a maxish load without working up to it.

The max. in the book is there for good reasons but it can be exceeded absolutely safely in many cases. You just have to go in with your eyes open.
 
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Hang on there!

Book maximum refers to maximum in their rifle. Book maximum could already be a disaster in your rifle. If you have not loaded this combination before, the appropriate procedure is to start low and work up, shooting, say, 5 shot groups, to see what the rifle likes.

You can still do that. And load the increments above book maximum to your hot batch. When you shoot, you may discover the rifle develops problems before you get to the top load, or you might find the primer edges are round and extraction is easy all the way to your hot batch.

One thing you can do is seat the bullets so they are about 30 thou off the rifling. This will reduce presssure.

Another trick is to wipe a film or grease (any kind) on the bullets. This drops pressure about 5,000 psi.
 
I'd load a few under that, working up to the charge you have loaded, it may be fine. I have a couple .308 loads that are 2gr over my book max. The manuals load for their gun, not yours, and are conservative at that...
 
Klunk, there is only one solution. Work up a load and find out what the maximum is for your rifle with that combination of bullet and powder. That is the only way to know if the hot load will be safe to shoot in your rifle. It you can work up to the hot load, but experience a sticky bolt, I would say pull them. If you are getting extractor marks on the case head, I would be inclined to shoot them, but that's just me and should not be considered as an endorsement of a safe procedure. It could also have a detrimental effect on your brass life as you could experience premature primer pocket expansion.
 
Klunk said:
only me...

so I start loading some .308 match....lapua brass...168gr Bergerbullets



they will be used in a K98 Israeli mauser...strong gun
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You shoot lapua brass and bergers out of a k98?

Like some have said, I would load 5 with .5 more, 5 with 1gr more, shoot the .5 more and see, and then the 1gr more. I am assuming your normal loads are at "max" though. If not, 5 in .5 gr increments.
 
Just remember the rules for the kinetic puller
1 Put a piece of leather in the bottom so the bullet tips don't deform or wear out the end of the puller
2 Use a shell holder in place of that useless garter/sleve setup.

Your face can't stand more plastic surgery:eek:
 
If it were me, I'd pull them. Then again, after ignoring all the potential safety issues of the over-charge matter, I'm still a cheap f**ker who would rather save my pricy Berger match bullets & even more pricy Lapua brass for either load-development or a known accurate target load. Firing them off just becuase I didn't want to pull them? That's a waste of time + money, to me at least.
AFTER loading 50rds of 7mm Rem Mag recently using some costly hunting-bullets, I only then realised I'd done the same (page had flipped) and I'd loaded them all using data for another powder. In my case it meant a waaay under-charge. I pulled them, and reloaded them with the right powder, rather than fire them all & waste them. Aside from simply the bullet, primer, and powder cost, I just don't get out to the range enough these days to waste an entire session of load-development time by simply firing off my mistakes, when I can pull them at home in an evening, reload them, and get some results to show for my range-time.
--->Your priorities; your decision. In the end you'll fire them all anyway, so I say it might as well be in the load you want them to be in?
 
You just found the perfect excuse to buy an RCBS collet bullet puller. After you've tried it, you can keep the kinetic one for a door stop.
 
The title of your thread is misleading! I was expecting to read something more along the lines of your own personal award of excellence for a great new piece of reloading equipment you had discovered.

Last reloading boner I got was from trying a Giraud case trimmer...
 
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