Know of M&P subcompact dealers?
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It would depend if someone made an aftermarket extended barrel that would be legal up here. Considering the short time the compact models have been on the market I doubt they have just yet. It would be pretty nice, I would certainly think about getting one.
The barrel isn't the problem, Storm Lake is ready to make the barrel. (They'll make it specifically for us - even label it "Canada legal"). The M&P C hasn't ever been sold in Canada. To my knowledge it's never been adopted by any police agency (the only legal way it could come in.) There are no more Police turn-ins (no longer legal). So you have to bring in a prohib (you would need a co-operative Police Dealer, and even then it would be iffy), and an ITAR controlled part. Given the retroactive increase in cross border fees that was just announced it probably won't be feasible unless you're willing to pay an extra $1500 and then wait for an FRT# since I doubt it's on the books.
As he indicated, Storm Lake has been making M&P barrels for a while and making us a 106mm version is not a problem.
Short barrel gun can't come in except to fill an LE/Military Purchase Order... but if the gun has a 106mm barrel in it then it's NOT classified as Prohib and anyone can import it... it's a Restricted Handgun not a prohib.
With a 106mm barrel the gun is a Restricted Handgun so any importer or individual could import it. Getting US export permits for this item is not a problem... just costly.
This is the only problem really... to make it feasible (economically viable) you need volume. With permit costs and other import fees the way they are now it's just too costly to bring in one at a time... you need to have orders for 10, 20, 30 units and that way the cost per unit can be reasonable. Even without the import/export costs, keep in mind that this is a $500 gun in the US which means once you add the cost of the barrel (@ $160) = @ $660 x 1.30 currency exchange = $858.00 and that still doesn't include anything for transportation, brokerage fees, export permit costs, processing and handling, etc..
Getting a new FRT# or Child Entry takes about 48 hours so that's not really a big deal.
Mark
Squirrley11
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Actually there is an FRT number for an M&P Compact its under M&P however just marked with a different barrel length and therefore marked down as prohibited. So in other words if you have a 106+ barrel installed and verified then it can be registered as restricted.
Also on Stormlake's website under M&P Compact they have listed a "106mm(Canada Legal)" barrel length.
Also on Stormlake's website under M&P Compact they have listed a "106mm(Canada Legal)" barrel length.
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We have no plans to do it simply because we don't feel there is enough demand to make it worth while. If anyone wants to step forward and front the money to buy and import 20 or 30 guns and barrels we'll be happy to work with them... but I'm not interested in bringing in 20 or 30 of these guns in the hopes that we'll be able to sell them.
My instincts tell me that there are a few people who might actually buy them but most people will hem and haw and complain that the price is too high, or it's the wrong one or they wanted this option instead of that one... in the end we'd sell a handful of units and be stuck with the rest... no thanks
Mark
Squirrley11
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Why not put in a suvey who would buy? I bet I could find a home for at least 3 of them... and then take preorder with some cash upfront if u can get 30-50 or so would you price it out? obviously we arent going to be prepared to spend $1000 in that event I'd be leaning towards the extra money for a sig 239... but depending on the price point I think there would be lots of interest.
What do you expect they're going to cost?
The guns are being sold discounted in the US for over $500.00 US
The barrel is $160.00 US
That's $760.00 US without shipping (from 2 different sources) which has to run another $25 to $30... so you're now up to $790 US minimum.
That also doesn't include the time and effort to put the orders together... to handle the receiving... log them onto the FFL books in the US, etc... or to assemble the guns and test them and fit barrels where necessary.
So far you're up to $790 US which at today exchange rate is @ 1.28 so already you have over $1,000 Canadian and you haven't added a penny for the costs involved to get export permits for 2 different items from two different suppliers (gun from S&W and Barrels from Storm Lake). You also haven't calculated in anything for transport across the border or for customs brokerage, etc..
These guns are NOT economically feasible... which is what we've been trying to say all along. No-one is going to pay the cost that would be involved to import these... regardless of what "fee" we charge for doing the import service.
Mark
