Knowledge about 44-100 creedmore, aka as 44 2 6/10 aka 44-90 Rem Straight

[Willy Tincup]

Does anyone have any experience with the above mentioned cartridge. It was chambered in the Remington Hepburn #3 sporting / target rifles starting around 1880. I'm now looking for brass,mould, dies, .446 diam bullets [I think] etc etc. Thanks in advance for any leads, info, etc. ........wTc

 

[tacfoley]

I can only find these details -

.44-100 Remington - Creedmoor / .44-90 Remington Straight Reloading Data
Warning! Notes: Historical Notes: The 44-100 cartridge was for the Remington-Hepburn or No. 3 Long-Range Creedmoor rifle. It was introduced in 1880. This special 2 6/10-inch shell had various loadings and bullets plus the usual variety of designations for the same round. As if to add more confustion, a 2 4/10-inch version was also made. This may have been designed to furnish a straight case as an alternative to some of the necked Sharps 44 cartridges. Also known as the 44-2 6/10-inch and 44-90 Remington Straight, this was designed as a match cartridge for long-range shooting out to 1,000 and even 1,400 yards. It was moderately popular, but rifles in this chambering are scarce. Both Remington and Winchester furnished empty cases and bullets for handloading. Cases can be converted from the 45 Basic. (Cartridges of the World 11th Edition)

tac

 

[Road King]

Here is what a .44 2 6/10" will look like . This one is for Remington Creedmoor

 

[Pete04]

.44-90 also .44-100 Rem Straight
Bullet dia. .442, 470g. lead, powder 4198, 27.0g, vel. 1410fps.(source Barnes)
case lenght 2.60", head dia. .503", rim dia. .568, neck dia. .465, body angle .43 degrees, loaded lengh 3.97", rim thickness .070
According to John and Judy Donnellys manual of cartidge conversion.

 

[Willy Tincup]

OK: Now for the next round of questions. Does anyone know if the 45-100 Sharps brass can be sized down [successfuly] to make some brass? Or know where to order brass from? Oh yea; Dies...........so who has a set of them slip sliding around in the junk drawer?

 

[hickstick_10]

CH4D will have the dies as will Buffalo arms which will also have the moulds. KAL tool (paper patch moulds) and perhaps Boomers moulds also deal with this sort of stuff.

The fella who runs KAL tool (Rick) is a standup guy. and I have ordered stuff from Buffalo Arms and can recommend them as well. Talk to him (Rick at KAL tool) about your case issue as well, he would know where to aquire them or failing that he has some pretty neat ways of stretching out brass.

Brass i have no clue. , and I dont know how easy it would be to get it from the states if you cant form it from cases available here. Roy Gruninger at R&T Firearms in Warburg A.B has a large selection of custom cases, he had quite a few different types of cases for the various single shots.


The BPCR.net forums and the ASSRA.com will have some guys who know exactley what you need.

 

[tacfoley]

'Basic brass' is just that - long enough to make just about any 44/45 calibre BPCR cartridge from.

We shoot 45-120, 110, 90 and 70, all from the same basic brass trimmed to suit the need.

Bertram is good.

tac

 

[Pete04]

Sorry, I thought this was clear from tacfoleys original post but their (Donnellys) instuction is;
Make From: .45 Basic, Trim case to length and F/L size. Turn rim to .568" dia. and back chamfer.