Komando P4 vs Canuck Operator
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Well thank you for being happy for me. I know I made the right choice.
Good call. What some on this thread are overlooking is value retention and resale. A genuine Benelli that is properly cared for will retain most of it's purchase price in terms of resale value. The clones? Not so much....
I am very glad to hear that those with the new Turkish offering are well-pleased with the value received for their money. That said, they aren't genuine Benelllis as reflected in the comparatively low retail and resale values. I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up if I didn't already own a Benelli, but it is useful to retain a realistic perspective....
I thought that ODelle was the importer of the Kommando P4 as well, but now it is not listed on their website.
Did they change the name of this shotgun then for future imports?
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I initially got mine from Bullseye, under the name "Kommando P4".
Seems they now sell under the name "Canuck Operator", as they changed their product listing page to "Canuck Operator" from the initial "Kommando P4".
So I believe these are the same rifles, but that they changed their name for new import stock.
Did they change the name of this shotgun then for future imports?
EDIT:
I initially got mine from Bullseye, under the name "Kommando P4".
Seems they now sell under the name "Canuck Operator", as they changed their product listing page to "Canuck Operator" from the initial "Kommando P4".
So I believe these are the same rifles, but that they changed their name for new import stock.
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My thoughts exactly. I had a real Benelli M4 10 years ago. That thing was stressful to own. A lot of money to tie up in a smoothbore firearm IMHO... Every EE ad that popped up selling an M4 was stressful to click on, hoping my gun wouldn't lose value. I sold it to fund other projects, I loved it but it's just too much money to have tied up in a shotgun for my uses. I can afford a real M4 but I much prefer 800$ tied up in a black semi auto shotgun than 3-4x that much. Resale value means nothing.
For the sake of the real M4 owners I do hope these guns being such high quality doesn't negatively affect the M4 resale value.
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I feel much the same, I was about to bite on a real M4 2 weeks before these turned up, glad I didn't. I hate to say it but I believe that M4 owners will already be feeling a significant change in the used market.
A 12ga you would have trouble catching me paying $1800 for before, you wont catch me paying more than 1.5x what a clone of this quality goes for just to have the brand name.
I feel bad for those that bought new M4's and lost 80% of the value of the P4 the moment they took it home. Want to talk about the return on investment? You will lose more on an M4 than a P4 is worth in a few months time.
With my P4 I dont worry about using it hard because its decently affordable. I can afford to re-finish or replace down the road.
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So why does Odell's picture show the proper ghost ring sights and black controls... That's more than just a name change.
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Hi sky52
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The Canuck Operator is slightly different than the P4, same manufacturer. It is 5+1, ghost ring rear sight with a picatinny rail across the length of the receiver and black out controls. They are currently available for sale.
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Ian M.#Mahler#|#General Manager
O'Dell Engineering Ltd.#
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The Canuck Operator is slightly different than the P4, same manufacturer. It is 5+1, ghost ring rear sight with a picatinny rail across the length of the receiver and black out controls. They are currently available for sale.
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Thanks,
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Ian M.#Mahler#|#General Manager
O'Dell Engineering Ltd.#
Someone tried in an earlier post. No bueno without some mods to the stock.
LOL.... I'm afraid that a few of you are fast approaching delusional in your mental gymnastics to substantiate the purchase of a clone over the genuine article! What I find surprising is the fact.that some of you ought to be sufficiently experienced to know that proven quality will always maintain value in the face of cheap(er) alternatives. Connisseurs know and appreciate the differences, even where functional variances are slight. The Beretta brand name carries a cachet all of its own.
Let me put it this way - if offered a choice of both shotguns, which would you honestly prefer? Which would you be willing to stake your life on right now, today? I know how I would answer those questions, and the Beretta name still carries certain weight and innate value.
I am not trying to substantiate the price of a genuine Benelli M4, because I don't have to. Brand-name quality carries value even today, and especially with firearms and other high-end collectibles.... think KAC, DD, LMT and CC where ARs are concerned. Despite the plethora of $650 S&W Sporter M4 clones usually availalbe on the Canadian Market, $3.5K HK MR223s of all models and $2.5K DD M4V7s remain sold out eveeywhere. Quality attracts a certain type of collector who values firearms for what they are, not just what they can do.
All of the above is moot anyways, ar least so far as my Benelli M4 "Entry" is concerned. If and when the Turks build a Restricted 14" barrel version of their "Kommando" clone I will reevaluate. Until then? I'm not losing any sleep..... ��
P.S. Wal-mart Greeter, you evidently made the right call in selling off your Benelli M4 10 years ago! The stress of owning the world's finest self-loading, combat shotgun was clearly too much for you....
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