Korean war rifles sold back to the US
- Thread starter vader_z
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Ar180shooter
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Here's a link to the Chosun Iibo , just in case someone has a computer set up for Hangul:
www.chosun.com
Without a 'terp , I are a fukshunal e-lit-er-writ. Can't talk the talk ,either.
For the english version of the story , click on ENGLISH near the top of the page , then do a search for M1 carbine.
Look for "Korea to sell old rifles back to U.S." -- Date/time : Sept 23 , 2009 11.32 KST.
www.chosun.com
Without a 'terp , I are a fukshunal e-lit-er-writ. Can't talk the talk ,either.
For the english version of the story , click on ENGLISH near the top of the page , then do a search for M1 carbine.
Look for "Korea to sell old rifles back to U.S." -- Date/time : Sept 23 , 2009 11.32 KST.
FWIW:
As I understand it , most of the Allied troops in the Korean War used US weapons and gear. Some exceptions included: The Commonwealth countries with Enfields & Brens , etc and the Belgians & Colombians with FN-49 in 30'06.
According to oral history from an older gent near Bangor who had been with the US liason team to the Ethiopians:
They started with Commonwealth supplied Enfields & Brens. The Ethiopians were a little leary of the Garands at first -- not sure if they wanted the swap . After some training and shooting , they never looked back. The Bren/Bar swap never happened. They took the BAR's but flat refused to give up their beloved Brens , so the US team had the supply guys get ammo from the Commonwealth units. The Ethiopians would leave the BAR's in the rear with the gear when moving. When they were in static positions , the BAR's would be brought up to add to the firepower.
Here's some scenes from a movie that was released in several languages a few years ago. I don't want to completely spoil the story , so these are just a couple of guns/ action/shooting scenes.
Metric tons of milsurp guns. The bad guys have a mix of mostly USSR stuff , along with some Japanese and German WW2 left-overs .
Warning: Not for kids' eyes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U91sJcUjJF0
The guns that went to Korea in the very early 1950's were used hard. Most of them got wet.
The Optimal Infantry LMG and rifle combination
The BAR and the Lee-Enfield were both outmoded WW1 weapons which showed their limitions in WW2 and Korea to the detriment of the infantry who were saddled with them. The BREN and the Garand were next generation infantry small arms which served to offset the firepower limitations of the BAR and Lee-Enfield.
The limitations of the BAR and Lee-Enfield became even more apparent in Korea when dealing with Chinese "human wave" assaults which simply overwhelmed the ability of the defenders to kill them due to insufficient high volume automatic fire in the infantry squads/sections. What saved the day throughout was the fact that the Chinese did not have either the mobility or the logistics to exploit local successes, as well as the volume and quality of US/Commonwealth artillery fires and tactical air support.
The ideal small arms combination for the infantry in WW2 and Korea would have been the Garand coupled with the BREN had it been available in .30-06. It borders on criminal that Commonwealth infantry were still stuck with the 19th century Lee-Enfield for the duration of the Korean War. Considerable numbers of the troops did their own sums on this and unofficially aquired and used both Garands and M1/M2 Carbines.
The BAR and the Lee-Enfield were both outmoded WW1 weapons which showed their limitions in WW2 and Korea to the detriment of the infantry who were saddled with them. The BREN and the Garand were next generation infantry small arms which served to offset the firepower limitations of the BAR and Lee-Enfield.
The limitations of the BAR and Lee-Enfield became even more apparent in Korea when dealing with Chinese "human wave" assaults which simply overwhelmed the ability of the defenders to kill them due to insufficient high volume automatic fire in the infantry squads/sections. What saved the day throughout was the fact that the Chinese did not have either the mobility or the logistics to exploit local successes, as well as the volume and quality of US/Commonwealth artillery fires and tactical air support.
The ideal small arms combination for the infantry in WW2 and Korea would have been the Garand coupled with the BREN had it been available in .30-06. It borders on criminal that Commonwealth infantry were still stuck with the 19th century Lee-Enfield for the duration of the Korean War. Considerable numbers of the troops did their own sums on this and unofficially aquired and used both Garands and M1/M2 Carbines.
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- In the Badlands of Alberta
Not if he kept a residence in the US.
FWIW, I bought several $200 M1's from the now-defunct Districorp in 2001 or so, so they were still dirt cheap 9 years ago
They used to be an excellent source for parts, incl Garand and M1 Carbine receivers. Their inventory was diminishing though. I wonder who bought it?
Download the google chrome browser. Has an autotranslator!
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Do you folks know something that I don't? As far as I know queen hillary and our state department (foggy bottom) has blocked the import.
Cuz da Kriminuls might use them. Oh, an bein old, dey be too "dangerus" for us folks.
Cuz da Kriminuls might use them. Oh, an bein old, dey be too "dangerus" for us folks.
Looks like the ATF has doing some serious homework on the issue . Chatter indicates that the following position paper was leaked just before a scheduled congressional hearing on the BATFE Reform and Modernization Bill. The hearing was postponed.
www.scribd.com/full/39176770?access_key=key-k0k126h4dxkbhjq0z4r
If that link goes belly up , try David Codrea's article at examiner.com:
"ATF: Surplus Korean firearms imports ' pose a threat to public safety in the US " . Here's a link that might work:
www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/atf-surplus-korean-firearms-import-pose-a-threat-to-
www.scribd.com/full/39176770?access_key=key-k0k126h4dxkbhjq0z4r
If that link goes belly up , try David Codrea's article at examiner.com:
"ATF: Surplus Korean firearms imports ' pose a threat to public safety in the US " . Here's a link that might work:
www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/atf-surplus-korean-firearms-import-pose-a-threat-to-
LordTunderrin
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Ahh Yes the airsoft conversion. That was gold.
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I am sure that gang bangers wil use those M1's and carbines in preference to AK's and handguns! At least that's what BRAIN DEAD libs think. All them army guns be EVUL
