Krieghoff shotguns

Krieghoff Shotguns

Hey Sean,

Are you looking for a new one, a buddy of mine has a used one for sale.
2 Barrel set, 30" and 32".

Cheers
 
Boer seun said:
They do cost $10000 you realize that?
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Not all of them. A KX5 can be had for a little more than half that.

A K80 however starts at over $10,000 and goes up, way up, from there.

Quality guns cost money and Krieghoffs are quality guns.
 
From the Kreighoff website...
G & R Sales in Surrey BC also bring them in.

I've talked with G&R and Lawry. Got a much better feeling with Lawry.

As far as I know, neither keeps any guns in stock. It is all by order only (and don't hold your breath).

There is significant money to be saved if you were to pick up a used gun from a US dealer, and then go though the importation process (if you are willing to trade time for money).

There is not a lot of buy and sell action (that I've found) in Canada. I know a lot more people looking for a Kreighoff than I know of people selling (and if anyone is selling let me know).

Brad.
 
Okay, this is a stupid question, I know, but....

What do they do to a shotgun that makes it WORTH $10,000? Does it shoot like $10,000? If I look at one of the few G36's in-country, they sell for about $6000, but shoot as good as an AR that costs less than 1/4 of that. Is the cost of high end shotguns inflated?

I realize that quality costs money, but can people really shoot better with a 10 grand shotgun, or is it more for the collectors appeal?

Whatever floats yer boat, I guess, but man 10 g's is pretty steep.
 
canucklehead said:
What do they do to a shotgun that makes it WORTH $10,000? Does it shoot like $10,000? If I look at one of the few G36's in-country, they sell for about $6000, but shoot as good as an AR that costs less than 1/4 of that. Is the cost of high end shotguns inflated?

I realize that quality costs money, but can people really shoot better with a 10 grand shotgun, or is it more for the collectors appeal?
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What you pay for is more handfitting. The result is better fit and finish, improved durability, good trigger pulls, better barrel regulation and excellent balance and construction. IMHO, once you get much beyond $10,000 you pay for higher grades of wood and engraving. Good engraving is done by hand and it's expensive.

Whether it's worth it is up to the individual. Five years ago I bought a Perazzi which is in the same price range as the Krieghoffs. Before that I'd owned an assortment of over/unders (Berettas, Brownings, Winchesters and a few others). Once I got the Perazzi I stopped wanting anything else (except for another Perazzi). My shooting improved and I enjoy shooting this gun more than than anything I've owned. The good stuff does spoil you.

That doesn't mean I can't hit the targets as well with my Beretta 391. It also doesn't mean that I won't get my butt kicked by someone shooting a Remington 1100. The fact is the targets have no idea how expensive your gun is. They only know whether the pellets are on the mark.

$10,000 is openers in the world of high end shotguns. I was in the UK recently and spent some considerable time admiring guns that were in the $100,000 range. They are things of outstanding beauty and reinforced the cold hard truth contained in my sig line. :D
 
canucklehead said:
Okay, this is a stupid question, I know, but....

What do they do to a shotgun that makes it WORTH $10,000? Does it shoot like $10,000? If I look at one of the few G36's in-country, they sell for about $6000, but shoot as good as an AR that costs less than 1/4 of that. Is the cost of high end shotguns inflated?

I realize that quality costs money, but can people really shoot better with a 10 grand shotgun, or is it more for the collectors appeal?

Whatever floats yer boat, I guess, but man 10 g's is pretty steep.
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Not a stupid question at all.... when I started shooting skeet, I couldn't imagine dropping $2k on a gun, not to mention $10k

As usual, Claybuster did a great job explaining the details well.

I'll add my 2 cents.

What makes a shotgun worth 10k? (assume the base model)

Importing the gun from Germany (lots of people/organizations get their share of money from this).

Supply/demand part 1)..... I don't know the numbers that are exported, but it is my understanding that they demand exceeds supply, and the economic factors dictate an inflated price.

Supply/demand part 2) There is not a lot of demand (again based upon what I've heard) in Canada. There are not a lot of pricing deals to be had by the local retailers purchasing in quantities.

Product reputation: In competative skeet, the Krieghoff K80 is 'The Gun' to have.

Does it shoot like $10000?

Nope, unfortunately it ain't magic (although in my limited experience they feel different). If you suck with your 870, you'll suck with your K80 (but you'll look better while you're missing).

The durability and trigger are pretty important. Not to say a Krieghoff won't break, but over time they do so less often.

Perhaps this (and the above) is just what I use to try and convince myself to drop this kind of money on one, but with this kind of gun it is almost an investment. You won't wear it out, and when you are done with it, you should be able to recoup a good chunk of your purchase price back on it.

Now taking it from $10k to $100k is pretty simple.... Start adding engraving, lots of fancy engraving. Don't forget a little gold. Then don't forget some high end wood.

Is it worth it? Welp, everyone has to decide that for themself. The best skeet shooter in Canada uses a Browning 425. His backup is a $10k Kolar, but sometimes you don't mess with what is working.

Brad.
 
canucklehead said:
Okay, this is a stupid question, I know, but....

What do they do to a shotgun that makes it WORTH $10,000? Does it shoot like $10,000? If I look at one of the few G36's in-country, they sell for about $6000, but shoot as good as an AR that costs less than 1/4 of that. Is the cost of high end shotguns inflated?

I realize that quality costs money, but can people really shoot better with a 10 grand shotgun, or is it more for the collectors appeal?

Whatever floats yer boat, I guess, but man 10 g's is pretty steep.
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$10K is nothing if you get the English gun bug. I handled a McNaughton and a Westley Richards droplock in Calgary one year at the Easter gunshow. Both in the neighbourhood of $30K. I had a hardon for a week! You handle a fine gun and you'll know exactly why they cost so much.
 
Thanks for the explanation guys. I'm here using my Rem 1100 and TOZ 34ER for clays, so I'm not really qualified to speak about quality shotguns... :)

I guess if your passion is clay sports and that's all you do, $10,000 probably isn't that bad in the long run. I'm sure they hold value better than say, a $10,000 snowmobile or dirtbike. Hobbies ain't cheap I guess!!!
 
yeah look at Holland and Holland or Purdy....you can easily spend 150K or even triple that.
 
Ahsan Ahmed said:
How about this one:D
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/c...y/inventory/buda/english_sg/25792016_purd.jsp

IMHO, it all comes down to the individual i.e. if you are happy and make the best of what you have and really enjoy the sports of shooting and hunting.......then that's ALL that matters:)
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A very interesting gun,and obviously a masterpiece.

However, in my mind, this is NOT a typical 'Purdey' gun for the English market.
For starters, it has a 'pistol' grip instead of the 'English' straight stock and the engraveing is of the 'deep relief' style rather than the 'fine english scroll'.

A beautifull gun, but made for the American market :redface:
If this was made as per the UK style, it would be worth a hell of a lot more $$$ ( IMHO)
Claybuster, what say you ?
 
Haggisbasher:

True enough when it comes to sxs but not as much with over/unders. Most of the recent British best over/unders that I can recall were the pistol grip, single trigger, semi-beavertail forend configuration. The current Purdey catalogue shows a sxs in the usual game gun configuration but the o/u is like the one in the link.

Maybe English tastes are changing? I was in Purdey's last month and 4 of the 5 sxs on display had single triggers and pistol grips. I was tempted to ask why there were no straight grip guns to look at but you don't just ask questions of a saleperson at Purdeys you seek an audience.;)

At just under 8lbs. and with the various barrel constrictions I suspect the gun at Cabela's was someone's live pigeon gun. Even the sxs made for live pigeon shooting are usually PG, ST, and BTFE.
 
Claybuster said:
Haggisbasher:

True enough when it comes to sxs but not as much with over/unders. Most of the recent British best over/unders that I can recall were the pistol grip, single trigger, semi-beavertail forend configuration. The current Purdey catalogue shows a sxs in the usual game gun configuration but the o/u is like the one in the link.

Maybe English tastes are changing? I was in Purdey's last month and 4 of the 5 sxs on display had single triggers and pistol grips. I was tempted to ask why there were no straight grip guns to look at but you don't just ask questions of a saleperson at Purdeys you seek an audience.;)

At just under 8lbs. and with the various barrel constrictions I suspect the gun at Cabela's was someone's live pigeon gun. Even the sxs made for live pigeon shooting are usually PG, ST, and BTFE.
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What on earth is the shotgun world coming to !!!
Did you get out of Purdeys' without buying???
 
haggisbasher said:
What on earth is the shotgun world coming to !!!
Did you get out of Purdeys' without buying???
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Escaped Purdey's with credit balance intact. I did pick up a matched pair at Holland and Holland however.

A matched pair of foam earplugs with the Holland and Holland crest on the box.;)

And yes the guys at the club are getting tired of that line....:D
 
Hey a hundred bucks an hour for a skilled craftsman doing a hundred hours of work??????????. Pretty easy to add up the bucks!
 
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