Krieghoff shotguns

K-80s are considered to be the best gun available to shoot clay targets by many. IMHO they are almost as good as a Kolar ... http://www.kolararms.com/sportingmaxsc.html

To be perfectly honest, you really should shoot these guns before you make your decision to purchase one. It is a significant investment and just because they are expensive, it doesn't necessarily mean that you will shoot one of them better than any other gun. They still need to fit you properly.

They do shoot very well and pattern very well comparatively to most other target shotguns. They will also last a lifetime.

If you live in Southern Ontario, you are welcome to shoot my Kolar.
 
I looked at the Kolar and one of the dealers i talked to said i would have trouble with them seeing as how i shoot left handed. He said i would have to get the gun fitted.
 
Your dealer doesn't know much about Kolars.

My Brother is left handed and shoots a Kolar. I just had a custom stock made at Kolar and am waiting to get it back from being finished and checkered.

Here is a link to the Kolar off the shelf competition stocks ... http://www.kolararms.com/competitionshotgunstocks.html

I promise you that if you go with the Kolar, it will fit you like no other without getting a custom stock. They have a large number of configurations available from the factory at no extra charge. Jeff Mainland is the company President and he does the stock fitting. The factory is in Racine Wisconsin and it is worth the trip, just to get a tour.

PM me if you want more information.
 
I have a few K-80s and have shot them for 25 years or so, I have a new one as well, it is a Trap Special Pro rib Combo, with upgraded wood, Titanium choke tubes, etc. I have never used a finer gun, hundreds of thousands of rounds through them all, absolutely no problems. The first one i had cost $10K and my latest one was $20K+, but I believe them to be the best shotgun made for competition, and you owe it to yourself to at least look at one, handle it, see how it fits....The German manufacturer has a center in the USA and they take care of you and your Krieghoff...highly recommended!!!
 
You guys are talking about the companies taking good care of you. Do you have to send these guns to the usa to get anything done to them in the future?
 
Beretta687EELL said:
Your dealer doesn't know much about Kolars.

My Brother is left handed and shoots a Kolar. I just had a custom stock made at Kolar and am waiting to get it back from being finished and checkered.

Here is a link to the Kolar off the shelf competition stocks ... http://www.kolararms.com/competitionshotgunstocks.html

I promise you that if you go with the Kolar, it will fit you like no other without getting a custom stock. They have a large number of configurations available from the factory at no extra charge. Jeff Mainland is the company President and he does the stock fitting. The factory is in Racine Wisconsin and it is worth the trip, just to get a tour.

PM me if you want more information.
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Does Kolar make any attractive Shotguns? :)

To the OP. If your not stuck on "K" guns you might look at Perazzi. Perazzi Canada is great to deal with. Also a much better used market to look at.
 
Scott, they don't make Super X-1s anymore (LOL).

Lawry's sell both K guns in Ontario. You can buy them from US dealers, you just have to follow the rules on export / import.

They seldom break, even shooting a 1,000 targets a week. Most Perazzi owners keep a spare trigger and a couple of trigger springs.
 
For Krieghoff, go to their website and click on "dealers", there is a list of canadian dealers and i highly recommend Gerald Broten in BC., if you decide on a US dealer; Clay at Prophet River can bring it in, he to is highly recommended....Ben
 
I have owned a Krieghoff, an earlier Model 32 with various K80 mods but am now shooting Perazzi. The Krieghoff is an excellent gun but is on the heavy side. If you like heavy and smooth it's the gun to get.

Krieghoff triggers are superb and mechanical which is very desirable if you intend to shoot subgauge skeet with tubes. The downside of the Krieghoff trigger is its complexity. Pull the stock off a K-gun and you are greeted with a collection of tiny springs and pins. In the unlikely event one of them breaks you are out of business for the day may need a gunsmith.

A Perazzi trigger leaf spring might break more often. My first was at 50 thousand rounds. It takes about 3 minutes to replace and you are back in business. Perazzi triggers are inertia, very simple to fix yourself but the pulls are not as nice as a Kriefhoff and you may need a different inertia block for subgauge. If you need a selectable trigger Krieghoff's is better. Perazzi selectables need to be put on safe before switching otherwise the gun can double.

Dealer support and service for both brands is excellent.

I don't have much experience with Kolar. Nice guns but I would wonder about dealer support and transborder issues if I had a problem.

Ultimately what matters is how the gun fits and feels in your hands. To use a car analogy, the Krieghoff is like a Mercedes, heavy, smooth and deliberate. The Perazzi meanwhile is like a Ferrari, great handling, fast and more instinctive. Before dropping 5 figures on a gun try both and see what you think.
 
I'm really leaning to the krieghoff pro sporter. I have found one in the configuration i want and at a reasonable price. I think i am going to upgrade form the base model though.
 
I know Gerry's got a couple waiting for new homes right now, but I'd seriously consider looking at the pre-purchase service. A buddy of mine bought a new Perazzi, and Jonathan Weselake came out to Vancouver to fit him with their new try gun. As a result, the gun that he gets will be made to measure, and was roughly the same price as an off the shelf MX2008. I'm not invested enough to pull the trigger on a K or P gun yet, but whether or not a brand offers custom fitting as a service will definitely play into my purchasing decision.

All that said, I made up my mind long ago that when I finally decide to drop some serious coin on a trap gun, I'm just going to drive down to Ljutic and ask them to make me one of their over/unders... something about being a few hours' drive away from the manufacturer just makes it a painfully obvious choice.
 
pitpenz83
The only issue I found with the pro sporter was that I could not get the poi high enough for me (trap shooter) but for skeet and sporting that shouldn't be an issue. Over the last year I have switched to K-guns and I find my self wondering why I waited so long. I can honestly say I have never hit targets so hard in 25 years of trapshooting. My learning curve after the switch wasn't that painfull considering I shot a Citori plus for 10years exclusively before. Both of mine came from the US as the prices were much better than I could find anywhere here.
Good shooting
 
Get a pgun if what you care about is the cost of fitting plus good gun, the fitting cost is zero if you go with Perazzi Canada or Perazzi USA. I am the guy dfritter was talking about who bought a new MX2008, they flew out to fit me and I shot the trygun extensively over two days with the fitters present before finalizing measurements. This is critical for competition only.

At this price point, the gun will not break under normal use well into the hundreds of thousands of rounds, if it does the manufacturer will take care of you. What adds value in terms of performance/dollar is if they include a fitting service, including everything from a customized grip (they took measurements of my hand, ffs) to barrel weights and exact balance points. (To get value from this you need to know what you want and for what specific purpose the gun will be used (in my case bunker trap).) What adds value in terms of resale is things like engraving, nice wood etc. Have to say that Pgun wood is a bit random, you can get good stuff but may end up with straight grain, non-descript lumber.

Kguns look really really good, can't help but think that helps resale and helps hold value. Also their basic engraving is amazing, and they balance very nicely.

Shoot them all before you make up your mind though, it really helps. I ended up shooting everything from Kolar, Krieghoff, Beretta (old and new), Blaser, and all manner of Pguns before finalizing my choice.
 
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shootin' a Krieghoff......

I grew up shooting Beretta's and Remingtons but always dreamed of a Krieghoff. A few years ago a shooting friend of mine bought a Superscroll with a carrier barrel and tubes and then basically gave up shooting. I bought the gun and added a 30', 12 ga. barrel.

No offense to those that own Kolar's but there is NO comparison between those and a Krieghoff. The finishes in bluing are not even comparable and until Kolar has been around for about 50 or 60 more years we won't even talk about longevity. I always shot my Beretta tube gun very well and there is no question that Perazzi, Kolar, Beretta make good guns but when you're ready to experience the "Rolls Royce" of shotguns ante up and get yourself a Krieghoff :D
 
Well i am ready to order up the Krieghoff pro sporter. I have some big decisions to mull over.

30" vs 32" barrels

standard grade vs upgraded model (vintage scroll)


I am going to take the weekend to make up my mind and go for it.
 
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