Krinker Plinker Kit - Ideas on How to keep it non-restricted ?

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I know this has been discussed couple of times but never until the end. Sorry if this is a bit long but I just want to clear it out.

Many of us know about the Krinker Plinker Kit which converts stock Ruger 10/22 into nice looking Krinkov-Kalashnikov AKSU-74. This kit also comes with 8” or 16” barrel and folding stock by default. Now I am talking only about 16” barrel and folding stock. If you install 16” barrel and want to keep your 10/22 unrestricted with Krinker Plinker kit you have to pin your stock or better to change it to non-folding one. This is because for this type of rifle (rimfire .22 cal) the overall length of the rifle should be > 26”. And even when your stock is folded it still must remain >26 “. With original kit how it comes from manufacturer the overall length would be only 25” when folded with 16” barrel.
Am I correct on my previous statement?

Now here is the deal, if I want to keep 16” barrel and folding stock which are my options here? Someone suggested to weld the flash hider to the stock, but after some time this idea has been refused since this is not accepted as a barrel length. I see only two possible options here and I would like to hear your opinion on these:

1. While installing Krinker Plinker kit just keep your original barrel from stock 10/22 which is 18” and this will allow you to have your Krinker Plinker still non-restricted even with stock folded. Will this work? How much headache is to keep original barrel with the kit? Did anyone try it?

2. While installing kit use 16” barrel with it, but before you have to remove folding stock from Krinker kit and by performing some extra work on your stock add a 1.5” spacer in behind the receiver to extend the overall length to exceed 26”. Did anyone try it? What is your opinion on this type of modification? Is it legal? Will it be still accepted as non-restricted?

Also what I’ve heard is that after installing the kit I have to call to Canadian Firearms Center and reregister my Ruger with my new barrel. This means that in case if I am with stock 18” I should not do it, but in case of barrel 16” I have to do this. What should I tell them? Should I provide them with a picture or some other dimensions of my new rifle? How does this work? I know that I have only 30 days to do that.
Thank you,
Vlad
 
the krinker kit with the fake can is NR as it is, the short barrel is NR if you pin on the flash hider and jb weld the folding stock open.

you don't need to call the CFC when you put together a krinker unless you have the shorty without the permanent mods making it OAL of 26.
you don't need to notify them that you've rebarreled a NR with another NR barrel.

a couple guys on here said the jb weld and FH pin isn't going over well with the CFC but i haven't received any notice that mine is restricted and i'm not about to call to stir that pot either( like one or two other guys have:slap:). So until i'm told otherwise (by the CFC) it's legal and permanently fixed to the legal NR length.
 
markl said:
the krinker kit with the fake can is NR as it is, the short barrel is NR if you pin on the flash hider and jb weld the folding stock open.

you don't need to call the CFC when you put together a krinker unless you have the shorty without the permanent mods making it OAL of 26.
you don't need to notify them that you've rebarreled a NR with another NR barrel.

a couple guys on here said the jb weld and FH pin isn't going over well with the CFC but i haven't received any notice that mine is restricted and i'm not about to call to stir that pot either( like one or two other guys have:slap:). So until i'm told otherwise (by the CFC) it's legal and permanently fixed to the legal NR length.
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Thank you for the respond, however I tried to find the way on how to have it non restricted without pinning the stock. I want to have a fully functional folding stock. Will my trick with the spacer work here ? Let say I will install 16" barrel and put 1.5" spacer in between the receiver and the stock.
 
vinzer said:
Thank you for the respond, however I tried to find the way on how to have it non restricted without pinning the stock. I want to have a fully functional folding stock. Will my trick with the spacer work here ? Let say I will install 16" barrel and put 1.5" spacer in between the receiver and the stock.
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As far as i understood it the 16'' was legal as it was.
If your spacer is permenent then i can't see a problem,but maybe someone else will have some input.
You could alway call the guys at Target sports, they may have the answers since they sell them.
 
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You should not tell the CFC that you have a krinker kit on, although you may wish to register it with the new barrel length. The gun should be registered as a 10/22 not a krinker plinker.

Will someone provide a citation for the idea that you have to weld or jbweld (epoxy) anything? I believe the regs state "permanently attached" which means that a set-screw is fine since you need a tool to remove it. Welding might seem better but I can cut through a weld in no time.
 
Well, I got the idea, and that is right. Even if I change the barrel to 16" I am still with Ruger 10/22 and this I have to report to CFC. What about the Krinker's kit installed on my Ruger - that is just a different look up of the rifle, but it does not change it tech specs, of course if I am still >26 inch even with stock folded. Interestingg...... :)
 
skirsons said:
Will someone provide a citation for the idea that you have to weld or jbweld (epoxy) anything? I believe the regs state "permanently attached" which means that a set-screw is fine since you need a tool to remove it. Welding might seem better but I can cut through a weld in no time.
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I'd be interested in that, as well. Good point.
 
I have both the 16in barrel with fake suppressor, and the 8.5in barrel with Yankee Hill Machine Flash Suppressor on the front of it which I purchased later on, I have never called the CFC and have no plans on doing so, even with the short barrel installed. I think your getting worried about a problem that doesn't exist, unless you call the CFC and make it exist. I realize you live in Montreal, but here in the Prairies, I have never had a cop or range officer ask me to hand over my rifle as he pulls out the measuring tape.
All you need to do is relax and shoot your krinker,have fun, and don't call the CFC and create a problem where none exists.
You'd get different answers from the CFC depending on who answers your call that day anyway,so why bother.
 
Daehanminkuk said:
10/22 is a 10/22. I too have never seen a regulation on folding stocks that has been described here.
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A few folks received notices that their Krinks were going to be restricted due to OAL. But there is no case that the CFC should KNOW that you have a Krinker Plinker kit because it is a dress-up kit, not a rifle. If it does not change the classification of the gun, then there is no reason to change the registration.

It's like buying the plastic MG-42 kit and then calling the CFC to re-register it as an MG-42!
 
Thank you to all for your answers and suggestions. I think this is the way how I will do: ... it is only a dress-up kit for 10/22 and there is no reason to call CFC to re register it :)
 
What do you mean under "Canadian" kit ? The one which has the barrel 16" ? As far as I know original Ruger 10/22 barrel lenght is 18.5". Krinker Plinker kit usually has two barrels - 8" and 16".
 
My understanding is that the Canadian krinker kits, available through Target sports, came to 26" with the stock folded.
 
The fake can slides onto the barrel and threads in, it only adds approx 1 inch of length to the barrel, so the can does not really affect the length in this discussion.

I'd like to hear from one of these people who claim to have recieved a letter from the CFC about the krinker kit, how exactly did the CFC become aware of them acquiring the kit in the first place?

I have a Krinker kit and have not recieved any such letter, nor do I ever expect to recieve a letter from the CFC.

End of discussion please, don't create a problem for the rest of the krinker owners by creating a problem where none exists.
 
ajayofcanada said:
The fake can slides onto the barrel and threads in, it only adds approx 1 inch of length to the barrel, so the can does not really affect the length in this discussion.
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It's not the barrel length the fake can extends, it's the OAL. Some folks have unwittingly bought the American cans and have not measured their OAL to see if it's still compliant.
 
Even with the can off it is still longer than 26 inches, I have the 8.5 inch barrel on my Krinker, and it is 27 inches, of course I have the folding stock pinned though. If I install the 16 inch barrel and fold the stock, it is still greater than 26 inches. Which means.

8 inch barrel.........pin the folding stock

16 inch barrel.......no modding necessary
 
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