Lapua Lot Testing in Canada
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Get a hold of Peter at Hirsch Precision - he is the Distributor for Lapua in Canada
https://www.hirschprecision.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us
https://www.hirschprecision.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us
That’s what I did with Hirsch, worked out quite well.
Aren’t they Eley only?
There is no Lapua testing facility in Canada. Perhaps the Eley Okotoks facility is the only option in Canada, if it's still in operation.
At the two Lapua testing facilities in the U.S., shooters can lot test Center X and Midas + (perhaps X-Act also, if it's available). Shooters can make appointments to be there in person or arrange to send their rifle to the facility at the appropriate time. Currently, there is this advisory concerning the U.S. Lapua testing facilities, which gives an idea of how well used they are: "Due to overwhelming demand, our testing facilities are currently limiting ammunition purchases to one case (5,000 rounds) per customer per four months. Our Ohio facility is currently booked 4 months in advance and our Arizona facility has several weeks backlogged on shipped in rifles."
When the facility tests a rifle, they can test only with the lots of Lapua they have on hand. Sometimes they don't have fewer lots available. Under ideal conditions, testing should be done with at least ten different lots of ammo. If a budget allows for testing the less expensive CX only, then the more costly M+ can be eliminated from the start, but this means fewer lots from which to test and choose.
Once a lot has been identified as desirable, the shooter can purchase from the facility or through an authorized dealer to which the facility will ship the ammo. Shooters must purchase a case of the same lot, no mixing of different lots to make up a case.
My bad, you are correct. That would probably drive my ammo choice actually.
Regarding lot testing in Canada, shooters can only lot test what's available at the various dealers in Canada. It's reported that Hirsch is the Canadian distributor for Lapua, so presumably all or most Lapua .22LR ammo goes through Hirsch to the dealers. Some dealers may get various .22LR match ammos from sources other than authorized distributors, but there's little public information about that.
How often Canadian dealers get shipments of new Lapua .22LR ammo is not clear. Perhaps it's once or twice annually. Typically there will be a greater number of lots of Center X than Midas + because it is in greater demand. The demand for X-Act, at over $300 per brick, is likely not very high.
It's worth pointing out that the size of a lot can vary. Some lots of CX, for example, can be as small as three cases produced in total. Many lots will have no more than half-a-dozen cases. There are invariably fewer lots made of X-Act than Midas +, and fewer lots of Midas + made than Center X.
The quality of lots can vary as well. Not all lots of X-Act will perform better than Midas +, and not all lots of Midas + will perform better than Center X. It's very possible that the best lots of any variety are identified well before any ammo is sent to distributors around the world. Such identified best lots may only reach Canada by chance.
It's not clear how many different lots of CX, for example, arrive in Canada in any new shipment from the manufacturer. It's doubtful, however, whether more than six or seven different lots of CX are usually delivered to any one dealer at a time. It's likely that in total from a new shipment there must be more lots of CX in Canada at all dealers in total than any one dealer will have in stock.
If dealers don't get large numbers of different lots, but dealers don't get the same lots as others, perhaps shooters may be able to work with more than one dealer to test a larger number of lots than may be available from any one dealer.
Some dealers may on occasion go to the Lapua facilities in Germany to lot test ammo. Any such pre-selected lots identified this way are invariably pre-ordered by their customers and the average buyer will be unlikely to have access to them. No doubt this ammo goes through the distributor. Private individuals will not easily, if at all, be able, to import .22LR ammo directly from the manufacturer.
How often Canadian dealers get shipments of new Lapua .22LR ammo is not clear. Perhaps it's once or twice annually. Typically there will be a greater number of lots of Center X than Midas + because it is in greater demand. The demand for X-Act, at over $300 per brick, is likely not very high.
It's worth pointing out that the size of a lot can vary. Some lots of CX, for example, can be as small as three cases produced in total. Many lots will have no more than half-a-dozen cases. There are invariably fewer lots made of X-Act than Midas +, and fewer lots of Midas + made than Center X.
The quality of lots can vary as well. Not all lots of X-Act will perform better than Midas +, and not all lots of Midas + will perform better than Center X. It's very possible that the best lots of any variety are identified well before any ammo is sent to distributors around the world. Such identified best lots may only reach Canada by chance.
It's not clear how many different lots of CX, for example, arrive in Canada in any new shipment from the manufacturer. It's doubtful, however, whether more than six or seven different lots of CX are usually delivered to any one dealer at a time. It's likely that in total from a new shipment there must be more lots of CX in Canada at all dealers in total than any one dealer will have in stock.
If dealers don't get large numbers of different lots, but dealers don't get the same lots as others, perhaps shooters may be able to work with more than one dealer to test a larger number of lots than may be available from any one dealer.
Some dealers may on occasion go to the Lapua facilities in Germany to lot test ammo. Any such pre-selected lots identified this way are invariably pre-ordered by their customers and the average buyer will be unlikely to have access to them. No doubt this ammo goes through the distributor. Private individuals will not easily, if at all, be able, to import .22LR ammo directly from the manufacturer.
How about Peter at http://targetshootingproducts.com/home? He has been selling Lapua long before Hirsh started business.
I actually worked with Tesro to do lot testing of the lapua rimfire ammunition that they had more than a full case of. I bought 2 boxes from each lot which was I believe 4 lots of C-X and 3 of Midas+. Once I was done seeing how each lot shot I sent them an email and bought the full case.
My testing was done on four lots of Remington Eley Match.
Once the best lot was determined by firing five 10-shot groups at 100 yards over 10,000 rounds of that lot has been purchased.
The testing was done with my Remington 40XB but two Coopers have been digesting this lot plus some Eley Tenex and Match Biathlon
and another lot of the Remington Eley Match with a slightly higher velocity.
Once the best lot was determined by firing five 10-shot groups at 100 yards over 10,000 rounds of that lot has been purchased.
The testing was done with my Remington 40XB but two Coopers have been digesting this lot plus some Eley Tenex and Match Biathlon
and another lot of the Remington Eley Match with a slightly higher velocity.
This may point you in the right direction but doubtful you could ever duplicate with a case of the lot you determined best.
These bricks with different lots are tail ends of a case.
You might get some information based on what velocity your rifle prefers.
Having an understanding with a supplier who will sell you boxes of case lots that he can supply once you have done your testing.
No Tesro actually put a package together for me before that they had at least a case of. It was a mix of Center X and Midas +
