Lapua Scenar 155 vs Berger 155.5?

I have found the oposite and the scenars easier to tune, I have tried both and bergers use a secant ogive in the vld line of bullets.

Bullets such as the lapua scenars , sierra palma 155's use a tangent ogive which make seating depth not so fussy so easier to tune imo.

Both will shoot good with the right load with the BC being slightly better with the 155.5's.
 
my experience echoes Terry's. The good news about the 155 class of bullets is there are a bunch of goods ones- Berger 155.5, 155 hybrid, Sierra 155 ( new one), and the Scenar. Chances are very good that one of them will shoot very well in your rifle. As for the heavier bullets- assuming you are shooting F/Tr- the Berger 185 BT is very easy to make shoot well.
 
I've used 155 Scenars loaded with the same amount of Varget, and at the same OAL in three different rifles, and they shot really well in all of them!
 
I have seen Terry first hand and I would take his advice LOL I held his target at Borden and every 10 shot target basically needed one orange marker for the entire group LOL

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but since you guys are going in the direction of heavier bullets. I think all of us noobs and the OP would be interested in some more info on this topic of heavy bullets. OP never posted his caliber but I would like to know what is considered "heavy" in some of the more popular calibers. Is there such thing as too heavy??
 
I also prefer Scenars in my rifle. In terms of shooting to 900, you might want to take a look at 168gr or more, I shot 155s past 1000m in .308 and wind is a big factor.
 
Heavy is really a function of what game you are shooting.

If you are shooting Palma/TR, 156gr's are it.

if you are shooting precision rifle, then you need to see the course of fire and what makes most sense.

If you are shooting F class, most are gravitating to 185gr to 230gr bullets. A lot of what is best boils down to what you can find, shoot accurately and handle the recoil for.

Big matches have had shooters using 155 to 168gr bullets doing very well. Lighter bullets typically get bounced around more BUT if you know your wind dope and can read the wind, you can do a very respectable job.... even podium.

I personally shoot 200gr Hybrids and 208gr Hrn BTHPs. I might be one of the very few that couldn't get the 185's to work which is truly bizarre.

Jerry

PS as a point of reference, at the 2013 Worlds - Team USA used 185's (pretty sure), Team Canada used 185's, Team GBR used 155.5's. Not sure what the Aussie's shot - my guess would be 185's?. Was not much difference in our scores. All teams shot on the same relay and pretty close proximity
 
I will be shooting F/TR but my current barrel will not be suitable for the 185's . I would also prefer to learn to read the wind with the lighter bullets till I need or can afford a new barrel then i will look at the heavier bullets.
 
Mystic Precision said:
I personally shoot 200gr Hybrids and 208gr Hrn BTHPs. I might be one of the very few that couldn't get the 185's to work which is truly bizarre.

Jerry
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Why the hrn BTHP over the AMAX. On paper the AMAX appears superior, but I've heard people who haven't had success with AMAX having luck with BTHP Match.

I've never tried the BTHP match.
 
Berger 155.5s at 300 y

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/986185-Stunning-6-shot-group-at-300-y-tough-to-beat-this-No-Scope
 
I have shot most 155 gr bullet on the market. I have never felt that I am at a disadvantage if I was shooting a 155 Nosler or SMK bullet against a 155.5 Berger or Lapua bullet. I have never shot the 155 AMax bullets at long range, but I did have one barrel that shot them like a laser at 300m.

What I have found is the Berger's and Lapua bullets require about 2 MOA less elevation at 1000 yards than SMK's or Noslers.
 
I had better success with the Berger 155.5's than the Lapua 155's. The Berger's were easier to load for and less sensitive to jump. I can load mag length with the Berger's and still have a 1/2 MOA load as far as I've tested it (up to 600m) when I do my part and read the wind correctly.

That being said if Berger's are becoming unobtanium than I don't know what to do. I'm talking to Jerry to try and figure out some options.
 
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