lapua tolerances

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Hey guys,I'm trying to reload my 6.5 x 47 lapua. I'm using a #3 shell holder and not all brass will fit. Some are loose some are tight and some will not fit. These have all been shot from the same rifle. Are lapua tolerances that far of. ???
 
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That's weird, I've never had that issue, or heard of it before. When you say tight, are you talking about the diameter of the rim, the case head or the rim thickness? Has all the brass got the same number of firings on it?
 
check your shell holder, I have a number 3 that is hit and miss with 6br brass, yet the other 2 number 3s work just fine
 
i was using a redding and these are once fired brass.there's about 30 cases from different boxes. i have fired about 200 rnds from the same rifle

primers in or have they been deprimed? proud primers could be binding on the leading edge of the shell holder
 
Here is a little trick IF you have spent primers that have backed out of the case and you can no longer fit in the SH.

Extend the decap rod a ways out of the bottom of the die

Put the case ON TOP of the shell holder.. centering with your fingers as the rod enters the neck.

Just push out the primer without letting the case enter the die deep enough to size. It helps if the decap rod in longer.

But it doesn't resolve the concern you have... First off, review the loads you have used to see if overpressure might be a possibility. If these were factory ammo, see if you can match lot numbers of the ammo to brass that no longer fit.

Have to assume that ALL brass in question fit the SH before firing????

Of the cases that will no longer enter the SH, make sure the primer is indeed flush with the bottom of the case so you are measuring the extractor groove with the SH. If the case doesn't enter AND the loads are within printed specs and velocities agree, you likely have brass with soft case heads.

If you have an oversized chamber, you can swell the case heads with normal pressure loads so you have to check all options before concluding it is a case issue.

Make sure the bolt locks up properly and headspace is within spec. With this chambering, assume this is a custom rifle?

Can you get out of spec brass, of course... every manf has had an oops now and then.

But make sure it isn't elsewhere in the rifle.

Jerry
 
Jerry nailed it, there is no way it's the shellholder if some fit well and some don't, it can't change size, the only variable is the brass, or its condition. Including primers.
 
I just checked the "extractor groove " new word for me. The brass that doesn't fit are between 20&25 thou bigger. These are once fired. I also checked some factory unfired and have the same issue.
 
I shoot both 6.5 x 284 and 6.5 x 47 L using Lapua brass and this seems to be common. I "think" it is the machining of the extractor groove that is the issue. Once I cull out the brass that doesn't fit into the shellholders the first time I never seem to have the problem again. I think it is a quality issue with whoever makes the brass for Lapua.
 
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