LAR mags for hunting ?

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Has anyone asked the RCMP or the local MNR office you can use a LAR mag in a NR for hunting ?

I talked to a couple of great ppl at my MNR off and they said I should contact the CFO to be sure, however the MNR also told me if the mag is exempted for target practice then it should be exempted for hunting as well.

Sorry if this has been posted, I couldn't find anything on it
 
In Ontario it is legal, same goes the TD (Glock etc) pistol mags. Downside is there are many CO's and LEO's who are not up to speed on these so you can still find yourself on the wrong end of a conversation!
 
LAR's and hunting is a go.

Do yourself a favor and print RCMP special bulletin #72, and carry a copy.
No, you shouldn't have to, but it'll save some time if you do.
 
Its the wildlife and hunting regulations you need to check. Not the CFO. There are a few threads about how the CFO has misslead others about this topic
 
Legal yes unfortunately those that will be stopping you have no idea about that as I found out a few times with a 7615 rem
Much easier to be hassel free IMO and hunt with the 5 round. Seriously what do I need more than 5 rounds for hunting coyotes
 
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3macs1 said:
Legal yes unfortunately those that will be stopping you have no idea about that as I found out a few times with a 7615 rem
Much easier to be hassel free IMO and hunt with the 5 round. Seriously what do I need more than 5 rounds for hunting coyotes
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For when there's six of them. :)

It only happened once, one of the few times I've felt under gunned with a bolt action.
 
9x19p said:
LAR's and hunting is a go.

Do yourself a favor and print RCMP special bulletin #72, and carry a copy.
No, you shouldn't have to, but it'll save some time if you do.
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Thanks for posting this 9X19p, I was going to go looking for the bulletin and print it off to carry anyway. And your post will save me some time.
 
If you don't ask them questions they won't have a chance to tell you lies or misinformation. The LAR magazine is not a prohibited device so the firearms regulations do not affect the possession and/or use of it in hunting or anything else. Check the hunting regulations for the province in which you are hunting to see if they restrict magazine capacity. If they do the restriction will apply to all magazines, not just the LAR.
 
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I was talking to some guys at the range the other day about this very subject. As one of the guys mentioned these mags are illegal so I spoke up and said no they aren't you can even use them for hunting if you choose. All of them looked at me, as one of them got a little upset telling me that you can only hunt with 5 rounds in a semi and to be safe just put 5 rounds in the mag and you will be ok. I said nooooo I talked to the mnr and the RCMP, the RCMP said there are no restrictions on the mag you use as long as it legal, the mnr stated, as long as the mag is excepted from the laws you can use them for target practice and hunting. The one guy getting a little upset looks at me and stated "you can us them for target practice but not for hunting, you can only use 5 rounds in a semi for hunt". As I stood there scratching my head thinking "if i'm out in the bush target practicing and I've got 6 rounds left I should dump the 6th round into my target and then go for the coyote that runs by to be completely legal". I understand the regs and the laws are very transparent, however even reading the RCMP bulletin to them didn't even turn on the lightbulb. I hate getting into these conversations with people at the range a vow never to do it again. As I'm going to enjoy these mags while on my next hunt
 
The only question that needs answering is if there is a 5 round magazine restriction for hunting in your province. If there is not, then the lar mags are legal to hunt with.
 
Kinjo said:
Ya I just found it at http://www.ohep.net/Info.cfm?ID=3 in the second paragraph
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"You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. Under the Criminal Code of Canada you cannot possess any clip/magazine that holds more than five shots for a semi-automatic centre fire rifle unless that clip/magazine has been specifically exempted pursuant to the Firearms Regulations. "

...which brings you to this:

BigRigFool said:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

I believe this is the link.
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"4. Magazines designed for one firearm but used in a different firearm

The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. As a consequence, the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in.

Example:
The Marlin model 45 (Camp Carbine) rifle chambered for 45 Auto caliber uses magazines designed and manufactured for the Colt 1911 handgun, therefore the seven round and eight round capacities are permitted. A similar example is the 10 round capacity magazine for the Rock River Arms LAR-15 pistol, regardless of the kind of firearm it is actually used in."
 
Yes you're correct. I knew the RCMP had this bulletin, however I wanted to find something that pertained to the hunting regs as well. This way if I'm out in the bush I can back my claim from two angles.
Thanks for adding this berger
 
Kinjo said:
Yes you're correct. I knew the RCMP had this bulletin, however I wanted to find something that pertained to the hunting regs as well. This way if I'm out in the bush I can back my claim from two angles.
Thanks for adding this berger
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As you are in Ontario, look in the 2013 Hunting Regulations Summary on page 25 and it gives you the info you are looking for. The 2024 Summary isn't out yet but its been in there for years.
 
Its not a question if the LAR is legal or not, the question is if it complies with the users local hunting guidlines.
 
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Its not a question if the LAR is legal or not, the question is if it complies with the users local hunting guidlines.
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...and it does. Only limit on capacity, for hunting specifically, is in a shotgun. If the mag for a semi-auto rifle complies with the FA, then it is fine.

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@fw/documents/document/239841.pdf

Page 25

"You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun
so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the
chamber and magazine combined. On the Aulneau Peninsula (WMU 7A),
from August 15 to December 15, you must not use a shotgun loaded with ball or
with shot larger than number 2 lead shot, steel shot that is not
larger than triple BBB shot, bismuth shot that is not larger than
double BB shot or a rifle of greater muzzle energy then 400 ft-lbs.
Under the Criminal Code of Canada you cannot possess
any clip/magazine that holds more than five shots for a
semi-automatic centre fire non-restricted firearm unless that
clip/magazine has been specifically exempted, pursuant to
the Firearms Regulations.
Contact the Canadian Firearms Program at 1-800-731-4000
(or
www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca
) for information about the requirements for
firearm ownership, licensing, storage and transportation"
 
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