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I tried to order a mount from Larue but they wouldn't even ship to a US address if you're paying with a Canadian credit card. I told them that they sure make it difficult to do business with. He didn't have much to say. I bought from another company. Screw them if they don't want our hard earned money. :mad: Proud to be a Canadian!
 
if you're paying with Canadian CCs then he knows you're going to export it, which unless you can prove you can legally do so, he'd be stupid to sell it to you. He could easily lose his business over selling you one rail.
 
I see your point. But so many other companies are happy to sell to you as long as they don't have to ship internationally. Do you need an export license to bring in a scope mount?
 
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I see your point. But so many other companies are happy to sell to you as long as they don't have to ship internationally. Do you need an export license to bring in a scope mount?
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Anything "gun" realated over 100 dollars, needs an export permit. there are certain things (Barrels, Frame's, cylinders and a few others) that require export permits no matter the cost.

In LaRue's case i think you do, no matter....

Since so many of his optic mounts, and rails are used by the military, the US State Department has made them tricky SOB's to export, although its possible.

I had a guy here PM me that he could get LaRue stuff (probably through an exporter of some sort) with a couple weeks lead time. Mabey he'll see this and send you a PM, if not them give me a PM and i'll give you his screen name ;)

If you want LaRue stuff, be prepared to wait a long time, althoug many people will say its worth it.



If your looking for a scope mount, check out ADM (American Defence Mfg.). SOCOM Supply is the importer for their stuff, and im very happy with my aimpoint mount :D . They make very good quality mounts, for both aimpoints and regular scopes.

They have great customer service, and they will service your mount if its damaged or breaks - they will also ship replacement parts up here with no troubles :D (since the parts are under 100 dollars obviously).




Its not really Mark LaRue's fault, although i do think he could do more to get stuff to Canada... Theres a huge market for it, the stuff sells out in a week or two whenever the stuff gets in (Socom Supply also imports LaRue stuff once in a while). The biggest reason, is once again, the US State Department, which thinks that all us law abiding firearms owners are "terrorists" or "enemies of the USA" or some BS. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, such a great attitude around here. This has nothing to do with Larue and everything to do with the State Dept. Larue and most other US companies wouldn't mind doing business with us, but it is increasingly difficult to get export approval, not to mention all of the extra fees involved to get your export license. Quite frankly, it is too much hassle and expense, with little return, to make it worth their while.

Troy and ADM? Give them a call and see if they'll ship direct to Canada. Bet they won't take your order either.
 
Leg said:
Wow, such a great attitude around here. This has nothing to do with Larue and everything to do with the State Dept. Larue and most other US companies wouldn't mind doing business with us, but it is increasingly difficult to get export approval, not to mention all of the extra fees involved to get your export license. Quite frankly, it is too much hassle and expense, with little return, to make it worth their while.

Troy and ADM? Give them a call and see if they'll ship direct to Canada. Bet they won't take your order either.
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i was told by a u.s. company that it costs 17oo dollars to get an export permit. for smaller companies, that's a lot of money
 
Leg said:
Wow, such a great attitude around here. This has nothing to do with Larue and everything to do with the State Dept. Larue and most other US companies wouldn't mind doing business with us, but it is increasingly difficult to get export approval, not to mention all of the extra fees involved to get your export license. Quite frankly, it is too much hassle and expense, with little return, to make it worth their while.

Troy and ADM? Give them a call and see if they'll ship direct to Canada. Bet they won't take your order either.
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Or by from Canadian dealers:

Troy from CQB services

and

ADM from Socom Supply
 
I did buy from a Canadian dealer. I bought from P&D in Edmonton (A CGN sponsor). I guess I was just frustrated that I couldn't get a Larue product shipped to my US address paying with a Canadian credit card. It's not like I was trying to buy an AK or an FN for goodness sakes.
 
Seriously, you cannot blame Larue. If I am Mark Larue and you told me you little scheme, I will told you off too because it is pretty obvious what your next step is. Mark Larue did the right thing to protect himself.
 
The problem with Larue isn't DOS, we have no problem getting permits. The problem is Larue not taking any new dealers due to them being too busy filling for current vendors/gov.

I like the Larue product, but I'm also looking forward to trying some ADM from Socom Supplies.
 
dannyair said:
I tried to order a mount from Larue but they wouldn't even ship to a US address if you're paying with a Canadian credit card. I told them that they sure make it difficult to do business with. He didn't have much to say. I bought from another company. Screw them if they don't want our hard earned money. :mad: Proud to be a Canadian!
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Think about this.

You're the owner of Larue, are you going to risk losing your business to please 1 customer (Inernational) and p*ss off 1,000,000 local customers?

Then no one will have Larue products.
 
Okay guys, mabey we can all stop getting screwed over with regards to LaRue stuff, i'll post what he said to ME on ARFcom...

FWIW, we have an "Import/Export SME" joining us soon, and first order of business is to hammer out the ability to ship to your Canadian market.
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=377127

its the third last post, and yes we all know Mark doesn't like ADM ;) (referring to the rest of his post)



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As for SOCOM Supply (which may or may not have been referred to also) all i can say, is they have awesome service, and Karim knows how to make things right, and work with customers.


And ADM will service us guys in Canada also. If you read my writeup about my ADM68-low mount for my aimpoint, i went and stripped out one of the screw holes (by being stupid, and pretending it was a lug nut or something) and ADM said they'd ship a new scope ring half to me, AT NO CHARGE! :D
 
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The fact is that LaRue has ignored the Canadian market while ADM has stepped up to the plate. As for which mount is better time will tell, but for now I'll go with the one that is available and willing to work with us Canadian customers.
 
What we REALLY need is a good Canadian company to turn out this stuff.
Because of the US refusal to export .50BMG ammo and components, an new company in BC has started making precision lathe turned solid brass 50 cal slugs.
Accurate Bullet Company of Salmon Arm, BC.

It CAN be done, it just needs someone to step up to the plate.
 
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The fact is that LaRue has ignored the Canadian market while ADM has stepped up to the plate. As for which mount is better time will tell, but for now I'll go with the one that is available and willing to work with us Canadian customers.
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Precisely why i got my ADM mount, and im very happy with BOTH the product, and their customer service. both top notch! :D
 
I'm just a customer trying to buy their products. I'm not planning a "scheme" as Greentips tried to point out. I understand now that they don't have a permit to export. That's not my problem that's Larue's problem. At no time was that ever mentioned by Larue. Canadian dealers seem to have other competitors products and many US companies are more then willing to ship to Canada or even a US address when paying with a Canadian credit card. Nothing illegal about that - that's a homemade policy and not one shared by many companies. Making product available to the North American market is a profitable decision for most businesses. If that means getting export permits or distribution channels etc.. then so be it. It's a cost of doing business. I wouldn't ship to the US if I was breaking the law either nor did I ask them to. I'm going to light up a huge Cuban cigar and blow the sweet smoke south over the boarder as I clean my SIG CQB and admire my non-restricted 9" Dlask shotgun. Aheh! Did I mention that I ended up buying from a CGN sponsor anyway? I feel better about not buying someone else's over priced used Larue product anyway and supporting a Canadian dealer and manufacturing willing to do business with us Canadians.
 
Larue should ship to a U.S. address regardless of where the credit card is issued, except if they don't accept foreign (non-U.S.) cards because of fraud fear. That I'm ok with, but otherwise, don't know why the heck it could get them in trouble.
 
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