Laws on flintlocks ?????

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So I'm one of those shooters who actually likes the old stuff better than all that super mag synthetic stuff.
I was doing some research on Canadian firearm laws & found supposedly that certain made before 1898 & all flintlock, matchlock & weellocks made at any time need no licence or need to be entered into the money sucking regristry.
So I got bold, went online to a reputable dealer & bought a Traditions Hawken .50 cal flintlock. I deliberately didn't give my PAL number & stressed that a PAL isn't needed to buy such a firearm.
To my surprise my visa was billed & the firearm was delivered to my house with no questions.

However I'm still nervous. Has the business done something illegal? Have I done something illegal? Is the police gonna kick my door down & devastate my house & scare the hell out of my wife & young children ?

Any comments made to me by PM only. thanks.
 
thank you for your input. I hope nobody will commit a violent crime with a flintlock. The rural town where i live nobody has an interest in a firearm that takes approx 60 sec to reload. As for crimes actually commited there was one case in either texas or new mexico back in the 80's done with a flintlock.
Maybe after all is said & done & our british style government has taken all the regular guns away from the public, if we're really lucky they'll leave the muzzleloaders alone as they're considered primitive weapons versus the semi & fully automatic rifles & pistols that the authorities of the police state carry.

If we're really lucky that is.
 
Don't kid yourself. They mean to irradicate the private ownership of ALL firearms, including frontloaders. They (muzzlestuffers) are simply further down the list. IMHO
 
That strange,back in 84 when I was a member of the fort York
re enactment group I need fac to get a Brown Bess musket.
Have something changed?
 
budman said:
That strange,back in 84 when I was a member of the fort York
re enactment group need fac to get a Brown Bess musket.
Have something changed?
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I think the fac thing had more to do with the vendor you bought your arm from then the actual laws.

And thank God!

Foolish registration laws would destroy the living history community in this country.

Nothing makes me more happy then when I march in the GTA with my regiment and fire over and over again to the delight of crowds.


Sea77, I agree with you about the horrible synthetic stuff, I handeled them, shot them and they just feels like cheaply made souless mass produced junk, designed to be recycled.

I hope you enjoy that rifle you bought! Few things are as much fun as shooting a flintlock its like a time machine!


Hey if your interested in flintlocks the outdoors and history, Have you ever thought about joining a historic regiment??

If something like that would interest you please shoot me a message!
 
cc 84 1(b) and SOR 98-464 and cc 84 3 are the sections of law you are enquiring about and I think they are up in the stickies at the top of this section. The requirement for a PAL or not is a matter of store policy not law. On the other hand, if I personally were selling an antique gun to someone I did not know. I would probably ask for a PAL simply because it is a certificate of safety that increases the odds that I am not selling to some young kid that I know only from the computer.

cheers mooncoon
 
Just to clarify one thing that had me confused too some time ago: ONLY modern flintlock muzzleloaders are exempt from registration and licensing; modern percussion cap muzzleloaders are regarded as regular firearms.

It's stupid, but it's true... I have bought a Lyman Deerstalker flintlock rifle from a dealer recently, without requiring my PAL number. The same rifle with a percussion cap lock (and not a flintlock) DOES require a license though and they won't sell it if you don't have it.

Heh... Flintlocks are actually more versatile to use than percussion cap, as they don't need the caps to function, only a crude flint and a bit of extra powder. Our funky laws strike again... go figure.

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What is the difference between a old one or new one other than date
manufacture,old has a rapped barrel and the new one has a one piece
barrel.
 
thats what i figured, but wasnt sure. didnt bother to read the regs myself as i knew rifles were exempt, and really dont have an interest in front suffing a pistol.

had a hawken 50 cal once i bought NIB, used it a handfull of times and sold it. now im looking for an affordable .36 cal flint rifle for small game hunting.
 
Bear in mind that a flintlock is still a firearm as far as the CC is concerned. "Pointing a firearm" etc. In BC, anyway, it is still a firearm as far as the hunting regs are concerned as well. It is treated the same as the latest hi-tech syntho-rifle.
 
bdft said:
Bear in mind that a flintlock is still a firearm as far as the CC is concerned. "Pointing a firearm" etc. In BC, anyway, it is still a firearm as far as the hunting regs are concerned as well. It is treated the same as the latest hi-tech syntho-rifle.
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What is CC ?
 
To the OP,you still need a pal to buy black powder to shoot it,
so no sense buying one without a pal,it'll be a expensive wall
hanger.:(
 
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