Anyone tried this. I read in an old reloading book about making shotshell pistol cartridges with #9 or #12 pellets and medium amount of powder. They used 8 grn of Unique then used a piece of thin cardboard as a wad and put it over the powder. Then filled the case up with the shot to slightly below the mouth of the .44 mag case and then used another piece of cardboard to hold it in. Then used white glue to hold the cardboard to the case, just small amount around the inside. Showed pictures of a very "holy" pop can. Was wondering about something bigger like buckshot sized shot .33 or so , might get two or three in there and one step further like a filler of some kind to start the buckshot off correctly. Just throwing out some ideas. No particular need for a shot filled pistol, just one of those hum, I wonder, type deals.
Lead shot in pistol cartridges
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the 45 acp "buck and ball" survival round used to be issued to the survival kits way back when- it was too long to be mag fed, but consisted of a buckshot ball and small bird shot- it's well documented on how to make these and done just about exactly as you describe- not very effective though
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Gave me an idea Joe, thanks.joe-nwt said:
I just made up a thick walled 44-40 case. Sadly, it won't chamber with regular sized bullets in my 92 Winchester. To bad, the case life would have been substantial.
Used to make 44 mag shotshells by using a 410 shotshell wad seated over a mild powder charge. trim the wad petals to fit case length.
Fill with shot. Place a .44 gas check over the shot charge as an overshot wad,and the adjust the seating die to press a gas check below the end of the case neck. A bit of roll crimp and you are in biz.
Got the recipe from Handloader many years ago. If you have the archive CD's you should be able to find it.
Thegunnut
Fill with shot. Place a .44 gas check over the shot charge as an overshot wad,and the adjust the seating die to press a gas check below the end of the case neck. A bit of roll crimp and you are in biz.
Got the recipe from Handloader many years ago. If you have the archive CD's you should be able to find it.
Thegunnut
thegunnut: What is the diameter of the .410 wad cup? Obviously it is smaller than the .44 mag shell but how much smaller, I think it is a actually a .410 bore and not a shot size. I guess the next thing is a bigger .44 mag case and one can be made from a 30-40 Krag rifle or as Joe said a .303 case cut down to just fit the cylinder of your revolver and you might not have to cut that much of the wad cup off then and obviously it will hold more lead shot in there.
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When you load cylinder length cases you end up with a slightly bottle-necked case. I have no experience with .410 wad cups, so make sure they don't cause problems where the case size is reduced slightly.
I cut the cardboard discs with a sharpened 45 colt case and tamp them in over the powder and shot with the shank of a 3/8 drill bit.
Damn, I'm sounding like Mcguyver here!
I cut the cardboard discs with a sharpened 45 colt case and tamp them in over the powder and shot with the shank of a 3/8 drill bit.
Damn, I'm sounding like Mcguyver here!
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Where's your Swiss army knife?joe-nwt said:When you load cylinder length cases you end up with a slightly bottle-necked case. I have no experience with .410 wad cups, so make sure they don't cause problems where the case size is reduced slightly.
I cut the cardboard discs with a sharpened 45 colt case and tamp them in over the powder and shot with the shank of a 3/8 drill bit.
Damn, I'm sounding like Mcguyver here!
Gunnut: That is what I thought, just wanted to confirm that .410 is the bore size. The .303 will be tapered but run it in the .44 mag die for an inch or so and it will open up enough to get the wad cup in and of course once you fire it then it will be fire formed to the cylinder. Since the case head is a bit bigger than the .44 mag I will try this out in my 629 because the cylinder isn't recessed as my SBH is, I guess you could just shave off 20 thou or what ever it needs to fit. This is going to be kind of fun.
