LEAST Recoil in Milsurp

I'm far to used to shooting 12 gauge slugs so I find a Mosin Nagant with the 7.62x54R cartridge to be a total dream to shoot, an I can do it all day without discomfort.

.223's feel like .22's to me now, even 7.62x39 doesn't have enough oomph behind it for me to find it "FUN".

We all got different comfort levels, head out to your local ranges and see what other people are shooting, perhaps get behind the trigger of their guns for a few shots and see what you like.
 
24.7 grains of H335 and a Hornady 55 grain FMJ, I ruptured a disk in my neck in 1992 and after my neck fusion my neck still didn't like being jolted. I sold off most of my mil-surps and bought light recoiling rifles with scopes for chronologically gifted eyesight.



The only problem with these new fangled rifles is that they throw perfectly good brass away and make me go look for it. :mad:

If you want more recoil then shoot a 300 grain bullet out of a .44 Magnum with 20 grains of H110 with one hand. ;)

 
If it's CHEAP that you're looking for, then cooking you own ammo is th ONLY way.

M-1 Carbine is nice BUT Restricted and the ammo is costly. To add to the misery, they never had much of a reputation for accuracy; quite the opposite, in fact.

Tommy-guns are nice but, even with all that wight, they do CLIMB on F and they shoot miserably LOW on semi. Way to shoot a Tommy is SHORT BURSTS: 3, maybe 4 rounds, use the sights and she's bang-on. For targets much farther than 50 yards, use FA and the sights, let her "walk" them up onto the target until it falls down, goes BOOM! I have shot a Falling-plate course with a 1928A1; it was fun!

Cheap shooting with just about ANY military rifle can be got for 10 cents a shot using the C.E. Harris UNIVERSAL LOAD FOR MILITARY RIFLES. The recipe is so simple it hurts: 180-grain CAST bullet, gas-check and 13 (thirteen) grains of Red Dot shotgun powder. You GET about 1800 ft/sec, 538 rounds to the pound of powder, 2 MOA accuracy out of most barrels and it is consistent enough that Buffdog uses it for his gopher-sniping load in a .303, out to 300. Same load works for MOST military calibres, more or less. Low pressures, too. To be honest, though I would cut it a bit for smaller casings (Arisaka, Carcano, Mannlichr, MS 6.5s) and perhaps up it a bit for the '06 and the 8x63 Bofors.

NO reason to beat yourself black and blue with recoil.

And NO reason that shooting should break your bank.

Hope this helps.
 
For low recoil and inexpensive ammo I would go with a 7.62 x 39 and for accuracy out of a military surplus rifle I would choose a SKS. For slightly better accuracy though not strictly speaking military surplus I would choose the CZ 858
 
The M1 Carbine was never renowned for accuracy. It was basically intended to be a pistol/rifle replacement for non- line infantry personnel, officers, etc., so handiness and light weight trumped accuracy and hitting power at a distance. I've found them to be capable of 2" groups @ 50 yds which is good enough for their intended use.
 
Hard to beat the 6.5 Swede as far as a good long range target and game hunting round.
The 96 Swede Mauser is a beautiful rifle to plink and hunt with and is not hard to dial
in for big game hunting with the proper loads.

If you don't handload, you might not reach the full potential the rifle is capable of,
provided it is in sound condition with an excellent bore.

My favorite low recoil rifle is my Spanish Destroyer in 9mm Largo. Brass is available from Starline
or you can turn down the rim slightly on .38 Super brass to adapt cases. I load using .38 Super
dies and .356 cast boolits in weights from 130-158gr.

This little rifle I worked over is a scream on small game and will give most iron sighted Cooey .22's
a run for their money at 100yds.,except for a Lee Enfield Mk 8 .22 I once owned.;)

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Wadayamean, recoil? My 22 year old son shoots .303Br all day long!!!




Why is there a small pile of .22LR next to him? Ahem, well, you see...

Oh, ok, you got me. He enjoys shooting this No2Mk4 a lot, but he doesn't mind the SKS either, and he gets to score with both at 100 yards, and sometimes at 200 yards (with witnesses...)
 
bigedp51 said:
......chronologically gifted eyesight......
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My new favourite term to replace "old guy eyes".....:D

To those complaining that M1 Carbine doesn't count because of poor accuracy I'd point out that no one said diddly about accuracy, just recoil.

And I didn't stop to consider SMG's. Any of the 9mm SMG's would make the M1Carbine look like a heavy hitter. Then, of course, there's the Thompson. But even that is likely darn near the same for recoil as the M1Carbine.


And to smellie, thanks for that C.E. Harris load recipe. I'm going to try that!
 
Like Smellie said you can tame ANY milsurp rifle with the C.E. Harris red dot loads. I've tried them in my .303's, mosin and an 8mm Mauser. I get an honest 1-2 moa with them.

The best part is there is almost zero recoil with those rounds and very little noise.
 
My SVT40 is a very mild shooting full power rifle. On par with my SKS, if not slightly less recoil. It is easier on recoil then my M96 in 6.5X55. Ammo is cheap, and if you reload, it is accurate. It may not be as light on recoil as .223, but hits the mark for cheap to shoot, and accurate out to longer range.
 
Kind of tough to list 'surps AND abundant, cheap, non-corrosive ammo...

For felt recoil, my Ljungman is very mild to shoot (wear ear protection!). Partly because of it's 6.5x55 chambering, but mostly because of the rifle's design. Almost no recoil felt on the shoulder. The Hakim also fits the bill, and it'll sling 8mm with very little felt on the shoulder. They are accurate well past 200M.
I wouldn't call the ammo "cheap" though.

As suggested, the SVT shouldn't be overlooked. It's recoil compared to a bolt gun in the same caliber (7.62x54r) makes them a pleasure to shoot, and mild on the shoulder. Non-corrosive ammo isn't cheap either.

Cheap ammo, low recoil begs for an SKS, but accuracy isn't the same as the above.
 
Another vote for the 6.5 Swede here.
Funny thing about recoil.
When shooting at a target the felt recoil is noticeable , wether it's a .22 or a 12ga slug...but...when pulling the trigger on a Whitetail , there's no recoil at all..lol
 
Timberlord said:
Another vote for the 6.5 Swede here.
Funny thing about recoil.
When shooting at a target the felt recoil is noticeable , wether it's a .22 or a 12ga slug...but...when pulling the trigger on a Whitetail , there's no recoil at all..lol
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I find this true with the 'ol 12guage...a good flock comes into your pond, and suddenly there's no recoil at all. Makes you wonder; Why the purple shoulder the next day? I didn't feel anything!
 
less recoil, buy a .22 something fun to shoot, id pick up my NO4MK1 full wood, thing is a tank but one of the nicest rifles ive shot put 5 rounds through it the other day shot like a champ, in my opinion you cant beat an enfield, as for the advice from tinman and smellie that 180 gr bullet with 13 gr of red dot, ive shot this it feel like nothing you can plink all day and still be able to move your shoulder the next day,

Which leads me to my next opinion, My 1905 Ross, ive shot a few rifles 30-30 32 special, 7MM, 30-06, 300 MAG, and nothing compares to the recoil of my ross, i could shoot that thing all day, i would choose it ove my 32 any day, that thing barks and kicks like a mule,

as to the carcano if you want less recoil, dont get a 91/24 carbine, they kick like a mule as well, ammo isnt cheap either unless you load,

IMHO if you want something cheap to shoot with no recoil buy a .22 if your not afraid of a bit of recoil, enfield, or a ross will suite you fine
 
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