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This may make some people cry, including me. A friend of mine let me take a look at these for him. Both 1943 No4Mk1* Longbranch. The one on the top is maching numbers including wood. Now heres the bad, they were converted to drill purpose rifles. The barrels have been pinned and there is a D.P stamp in the reciever and stock. As you can tell they have been extremly neglected and need some love. Ill let the pics do the rest of the talking.

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DP guns are a legitimate collector item, and if these were not so rusted out, they would be a nice addition to a collection even if they never fire.

I would clean them up, but would not attempt to bring them back to firing condition.
 
Those probably aren't as bad as they appear. From someone more knowledgeable, what would be a good way to nip that rust- light steel wool and some oil? A scrub of the stock with warm water and soap, followed by some BLO, and you have yourself a couple of nice wallhangers. Be happy!
 
Nice grab on the 5G Woodchopper!

I'd almost think those should be beadblasted and refinished.

I also wonder why they were DP'd? A serious defect or some political bastard just wanted to trash some rifles to please his masters??

Sad shape but maybe worth fixing.
 
Fine-grade steel wool and NO oil. You buff off the rust with the steel-wool and THEN oil the metal. Using steel-wool an oil together just turns the rust into grinding compound (actually, a form of Jeweller's Rouge) and that can REALLY remove finish!

Refurb the critters and hang 'em on the wall. They can also be used for teaching that idiot Government course, thus saving yet another from being DEWATted.

Nice catch!
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If they were mine I would gently clean them up, find a couple mags and bolts and proudly display them on the wall of my gun room. I think they are very cool.
 
Once you clean them up, start working on your drill moves to go with these wall hangers.
 
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Once you clean them up, start working on your drill moves to go with these wall hangers.
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In 1968 we had a quarter guard detailed for some visiting poo-bah. When the troops were selected for it one of the old boys, who had never done weapons drill with the FN before then, was highly PO'd that he wasn't going to be able to use a .303 instead.:eek:
 
I can't see any dp stamps on the metal, just the stocks :S Perhaps they could be rebarrelled and would still be shooters? I've seen guns that looked worse than that brought back to life!

It all depends on what you want. Some decent looking rebarreled milsurps that don't shoot half bad are nice. On the other hand, a really decent brand new shiny bolt action rifle in any number of modern calibres could be yours for the cost of restoring those two.
 
Have a trusted gun smith check them out once you clean them up and ask them to keep a sharp eye out for any metal cracks, noticable fatigue...etc. If they clear, ask them to test fire the rifle with some .303 commercial ammo.

Epps offers this service and I have used it more than once on rifles I wasn't sure of.
 
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I can't see any dp stamps on the metal, just the stocks :S Perhaps they could be rebarrelled and would still be shooters? I've seen guns that looked worse than that brought back to life!

It all depends on what you want. Some decent looking rebarreled milsurps that don't shoot half bad are nice. On the other hand, a really decent brand new shiny bolt action rifle in any number of modern calibres could be yours for the cost of restoring those two.
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Ya my friend and I were thinking about rebarreling them but there is a DP stamp on the reciever above the chamber. Its too bad, I cleaned them up a little and now they both take a bolt and mag and #### and click. I would love to restore them so were looking over all of the options.

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Too bad about the DP stamps on them. You'll never know why that was done, if there was an actual defect or just the political winds at the time were involved. (cough...Liberal)

Personally I wouldn't restore them to shooting condition, maybe just clean them up for wall hanging duties. (I hesitate to say deactivate them, but it's a thought)


It's like Peter Laidler talking about rifles marked ZF...you don't want to fire them. :eek:
 
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Those are collectors pieces in their own right. I've never seen a rifle so prominently DP marked. I hope you keep them as is, anything else would be sort of bubba. I would happily give one a home-can't hang any of the real ones on the wall!
 
I've never tried it, but... I've heard neat things about Soda blasting. Apparently it'll take paint off of a chrome bumper or grill and not harm the chrome.
Any CGN'rs tried it?
Good luck with the restoration.
 
Most likely cadets DP gear......found in the basement of an old church or community hall?
These rifles (most of them anyhow) had nothing wrong with them at all, the barrels were either cemented, welded or pinned. You"ll find the recievers just fine...after you clean them up that is:p
 
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