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I am not sure what the "5G" means but DP means Drill Purpose only. The military would use Drill Purpose rifle to practice their ceremonial weapons handling. The DP rifles had a hole drilled into the chamber and a steel pin inserted into that hole so you could not chamber a round. The rifle also got stamped with DP and 2 white bands painted on them as in my photos.
Can anyone help use out with the "5G" identification??
 
greyman441 said:
I am not sure what the "5G" means but DP means Drill Purpose only. The military would use Drill Purpose rifle to practice their ceremonial weapons handling. The DP rifles had a hole drilled into the chamber and a steel pin inserted into that hole so you could not chamber a round. The rifle also got stamped with DP and 2 white bands painted on them as in my photos.
Can anyone help use out with the "5G" identification??
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Those rifles may well be DCRA 7.62 conversions. The OP should look and see if they are marked CA 7.62 on the barrel near the muzzle. Do they have bayonet lugs? (hard to tell from the pics)

According to this link they may have been DCRA club guns, converted by Canadian Arsenals to 7.62 Nato.

Don't assume they are in .303. Looking at the pics, I don't see a DCRA conversion number on the receiver ring though so who knows?

Sadly, they've certainly fallen on hard times. They look like they were left out in a damp shed for 50 years. :(


DCRA “Club Gun” Conversion

The DCRA "Club Gun" will generally consist of the same features as the shooters conversion and may be converted on any make of No4 action. It is difficult to say with any certainty but it is believed that these rifles will have a 5G inside a box electro-penciled onto the receiver left side buttsocket above the serial number. These rifles will more than likely be complete with the target sights and a target swivel, or should be. Some “club guns” may have also been accurized by CA as examples show both the 5G and C inside an Oval markings.

http://www.enfieldrifles.ca/ri15.htm
 
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cantom said:
Nice grab on the 5G Woodchopper!

I'd almost think those should be beadblasted and refinished.

I also wonder why they were DP'd? A serious defect or some political bastard just wanted to trash some rifles to please his masters??

Sad shape but maybe worth fixing.
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I've always been told DP rifles were chosen as being worn out and unsafe for firing. That's why all the huge conspicuous markings.

Grizz
 
DP rifles should always be considered unservicable and unsafe to shoot. There was a reason for them being graded and marked as DP in the first place. On the LE one of the unfixable/unsafe problems was excessive/uneven wear on the bolt lug seats in the receiver. I wouldn't gloss this over with the idea of restoring these rifles to firing condition.
 
purple said:
DP rifles should always be considered unservicable and unsafe to shoot. There was a reason for them being graded and marked as DP in the first place. On the LE one of the unfixable/unsafe problems was excessive/uneven wear on the bolt lug seats in the receiver. I wouldn't gloss this over with the idea of restoring these rifles to firing condition.
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well thats not always true.

earlier marks that were out of service were selected as they could only be rebuilt to a lower standard. LeeMetfords CLLE etc... Or rifles that were wore out and not rebuildable, but with the shortages in early WW2 everything was rebuilt.

When it comes to the No4 rifles most of the DPs were done after WW2 the Mk2 and No5 rifles were going into warstocks and there were lots of serviceable No4s that were being disposed of so serviceable rifles were converted to DP for cadets etc...

these 2 are odd as they have the 5G marking which is normally associated with DCRA conversions. However I seem to recall that it was also applied to other conversions. And these were done after the No4 was replaced by the FN. I suspect that there was nothing wrong with those rifles when they were converted.

They look like they have the bayo lugs so they are not DCRA club guns.

I would bet that they were converted to drill rifles for the Cadets
 
Nabs said:
We used SMLEs for the flag party when I was an air cadet. Shame I didn't know anything about SMLEs or their markings at the time.
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I've seen Cooey Mod 82 rifles that had all the metal bits hard chromed and the wood sanded and lacquered, used as drill rifles by cadet units.

I've also seen them use their C No 7 .22 trainers for drill because they did not have drill rifles.
 
my daughter's cadet group uses C No.7s for drill rifles. They're not allow to use .22's for shooting, they have crappy yet super expensive air guns for that purpose.
 
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