Lee Enfield Prohibited
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Sounds 'bout right, coming from a Liberal.
maple_leaf_eh
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Unless your ancestor's Lee Enfield somehow became a semi-auto, you have been misled. Bolt actions, with exceptions
are not necessarily included. The Howell, Ekins, Francis, Reider and Charleton conversions were exempted from the previous magazine limit silliness by name and description precisely because they are rare, awkward and utterly impractical semi-automatics. M. Huot of Richmond, Quebec converted surplus Ross rifles during WW1, but his was a major reconstruction effort. Frankly, any clever machinist can make a bolt action into something it wasn't originally; but there are much easier way of making something go bang and reload itself.
I wish we could concentrate on actual facts as we understand them right now, not wild jumping to conclusions and outright misinformation.
I suspect Lucky Beer knows very well that Enfields at the moment are not banned - will they be in the future? - who really knows but they are not banned right now so to come up with a BS thread title like Enfields Banned is childish, grossly misleading and just a little stupid and serves no one who is really looking for reliable concrete info in this uncertain time. Grow up - no wonder, there are folks out there that don't take us seriously.
I suspect Lucky Beer knows very well that Enfields at the moment are not banned - will they be in the future? - who really knows but they are not banned right now so to come up with a BS thread title like Enfields Banned is childish, grossly misleading and just a little stupid and serves no one who is really looking for reliable concrete info in this uncertain time. Grow up - no wonder, there are folks out there that don't take us seriously.
Depending on how strict you interpret the wording of (g). The infamous R v Hasselwander case precedent set out that it doesn't have to actually be full auto to be considered full auto. The definition of Capable in the old definition of prohibited firearm (c) meant it included firearms that could be turned into full auto (ie readily convertible in a short period of time with relative ease).
Therefore if a firearm is Capable of semi-automatic firearm (being readily convertible proven by the various howell,charlton, huot, turner rifles conversions), it should be rightfully considered a prohibited firearm under (g).
Therefore if a firearm is Capable of semi-automatic firearm (being readily convertible proven by the various howell,charlton, huot, turner rifles conversions), it should be rightfully considered a prohibited firearm under (g).
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Nope, Bolt actions are on the March-April agenda. You're getting ahead of yourself.
Precisely. Most bolt action WW1 rifles are capable of full auto, with detachable magazines. Even their variants could be considered prohib.
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It doesn't have to fit any definitions. It's a weapon of war, and that alone makes it scary enough to ban by name (so is the longbow). Btw, bolt actions aren't on the March-April agenda. There are already several in the current bill, including "Mauser sporters". Doesn't that include the majority of commercial bolt actions?
While your point sounds reasonable at first glance, it speaks of an underlying belief that logic and deliberation are part of this evolution. Discussing which models have avoided an arbitrary ban this week is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic minutes before landing in the water. Those who have decided over the last few years to acquiesce to various government messaging are quickly reaching a logically impossible position. In the past, the rest of us would have been more supportive, but now we are observing and laughing as many here realize they are standing at the gallows right alongside us members of a small fringe minority with unacceptable views. “First time bro?”
Don't try to apply logic to this. Everything and anything can become prohibited at the whim of a bureaucrat, politician or influencer. It's been incremental bans and confiscation from the start.
Gun control is an emotional and political issue which plays well in urban centers which are key to Liberal votes. It's also a wedge issue which can be used to divide and discredit anyone who speaks against it.
Gun control is an emotional and political issue which plays well in urban centers which are key to Liberal votes. It's also a wedge issue which can be used to divide and discredit anyone who speaks against it.
The Australians converted several hundred No1 rifles to full auto, with some using ten round mags and some converted for Bren mags.
There were also special mags of 20 round capacity made up for trench fighting
Maxim converted a lever action into a FA. The notion of, "readily convertible in a short period of time with relative ease" is meaningless and stupid because it is widlly subjective.
You folks should also look up the "Cuban Winchester" made up by an American Marine who decided he would help Castro during the revolution.
He converted a couple of hundred Model 92s to full auto.
Castro later set him up on his own Frog Farm, then had him jailed and executed on a whim. A man with his abilities was just to dangerous to have around.
The Cuban Winchester was one of the main reasons for banning lever action firearms in several countries.
Did a search, came up with a M1907 semi auto with a drum magazine and grips - not a '92.
John Browning's first auto was a '73 Winchester modified with a gas operated system.
The various Lee Enfield & Ross conversions are remanufactured. Nothing that comes anywhere near the Hasselwander standard for ease of conversion. Hardly a kitchen table job.
As far as that goes, many years ago I knew a chap who made up a 9mm smg using a No. 4 as the basis. Legally done in those days.
As far as the OP's question goes, no, the Lee Enfield is not on the list for this latest round of pending prohibitions.
John Browning's first auto was a '73 Winchester modified with a gas operated system.
The various Lee Enfield & Ross conversions are remanufactured. Nothing that comes anywhere near the Hasselwander standard for ease of conversion. Hardly a kitchen table job.
As far as that goes, many years ago I knew a chap who made up a 9mm smg using a No. 4 as the basis. Legally done in those days.
As far as the OP's question goes, no, the Lee Enfield is not on the list for this latest round of pending prohibitions.
INTERESTING. I'd never heard of this gun. It'd be really interesting to know more about how this conversion was accomplished and how it worked.
