WesternWannaBe
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Hey guys I was wondering if you can mount a scope on a Lee Enfield No 4. If so where would you find one, how would you mount it? And do you have to buy a certain scope for it?
Lee Enfield scope mount?
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I have a great huge hulking telescope mounted on my Number 4 and I can take it off and swap it for a far more svelte specimen.... or I can just put the iron sights back on.
I am using the S&K Insta-Mount for the Number 4 Lee-Enfield Rifle, set up for Weaver mounts. You can also get them for S&K mounts, but that means that you have to buy S&K rings, which are very nice but also rather on the expensive side. Weaver rings are solid and are to be found everywhere. Just be sure you do the screws up solid.
The S&K mount attaches to the top receiver of the rifle after you have removed the rear sight assembly and the spring and stud which keep the rear sight either 'up' or 'down'. You put all these parts away carefully, then mount the S&K mount with the cross-pin from your rear sight and pin that in place, just as the sight was pinned in place. NOW you attach the second part of the S&K mount and start the big Allen screw into place, working up through the open mag well of your rifle. You tighten the Allen screw SOLID. Now you put your magazine back in, replace your bolt, add on a set of Weaver rings and whatever scope you want to use and head for the range.
The mount is SOLID and TIGHT and you will get the best accuracy of which your rifle (and you) is capable.
It requires NO gunsmith to mount and you drill NO holes in your rifle. In my opinion, it is the best 'no-gunsmithing' scope mount on the market.
Your local gun shop should be able to get them but likely they won't have them in stock as they are quite an expensive proposition ($90 or so).
I do believe there is one of the fellows on this forum who also makes an excellent mount fore the Number 4, so it might be a good idea to wait around a bit. SOMEBODY will tell you who he is and how to get in touch. I have heard all kinds of Good Things about his mounts but I do not own one, nor have I used one, So I really don't feel right in recommending one. The S&K I do own and I do use and I think it's good. I ALSO think it's too expensive, so stick around.
I am using the S&K Insta-Mount for the Number 4 Lee-Enfield Rifle, set up for Weaver mounts. You can also get them for S&K mounts, but that means that you have to buy S&K rings, which are very nice but also rather on the expensive side. Weaver rings are solid and are to be found everywhere. Just be sure you do the screws up solid.
The S&K mount attaches to the top receiver of the rifle after you have removed the rear sight assembly and the spring and stud which keep the rear sight either 'up' or 'down'. You put all these parts away carefully, then mount the S&K mount with the cross-pin from your rear sight and pin that in place, just as the sight was pinned in place. NOW you attach the second part of the S&K mount and start the big Allen screw into place, working up through the open mag well of your rifle. You tighten the Allen screw SOLID. Now you put your magazine back in, replace your bolt, add on a set of Weaver rings and whatever scope you want to use and head for the range.
The mount is SOLID and TIGHT and you will get the best accuracy of which your rifle (and you) is capable.
It requires NO gunsmith to mount and you drill NO holes in your rifle. In my opinion, it is the best 'no-gunsmithing' scope mount on the market.
Your local gun shop should be able to get them but likely they won't have them in stock as they are quite an expensive proposition ($90 or so).
I do believe there is one of the fellows on this forum who also makes an excellent mount fore the Number 4, so it might be a good idea to wait around a bit. SOMEBODY will tell you who he is and how to get in touch. I have heard all kinds of Good Things about his mounts but I do not own one, nor have I used one, So I really don't feel right in recommending one. The S&K I do own and I do use and I think it's good. I ALSO think it's too expensive, so stick around.
The guy name is Gairlochian, here is a review I made of the scope mount. Make sure everything is tight, and don't do like I did, take out the rifle of the box by the scope.....
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467905&highlight=gairlochian
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467905&highlight=gairlochian
WesternWannaBe
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Looks solid, thxs guys. I will be picken one of those up soon.
True, you CAN have your rifle D&T'd (drilled and tapped) but, by the time it's all finished, you have just about the same number of dollars invested as you would with the no-gunsmith S&K mount.... twice or more what you would have with the Gairlochian mount.... and you have knocked at least a hundred bucks off the resale value of your rifle.
THAT's why I didn't mention drilling and tapping.
THAT's why I didn't mention drilling and tapping.
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williamjoyce: Lord Haw Haw, I presume!
I have here a lovely old 1904 London Small Arms SMLE Mark I * * * which has had precisely that mount added to it. I paid $75 for the rifle, 90% bore included, simply because that is all it is worth with that mod added. You can ask the other guys here what a 1904 London Small Arms SMLE Mark I * * * is worth WITHOUT the Bubba Mount.
Apart from the fact that I don't dare show the beautiful old rifle to any knowledgeable collectors (for fear that I would end up in the tar-pot myself), this conversion is highly unsatisfactory. It is very difficult to do up the scope-ring screws tight ENOUGH to prevent the scope 'walking' forward a tiny bit every time you pull the trigger.... and it is worse the closer you get to full-house loads. This is not really a terrible bother when you're on the range (unless you want to make a decent group, that is) but, if you're hunting, the rifle generally uses your first shot to spit the scope off the rail, forwards. This can really mess up your backup shot, should you need one.
Yes, you can use a little .22 scope on this mount, or you can go the extra few bucks and get a special set of 1-inch rings which will fit it, but the chances are that you'll never be satisfied with the RESULTS of your labours. Much better to do it right, which is actually cheaper. These days, it runs $15 to $20 a hole to D&T, plus your base, plus rings. So that's $60 minimum for the D&T job plus about $15 for the rail plus another $20 for the rings, which makes $95 and you still aren't happy. With the S&K mount, it is $90 for the base plus $20 for rings = $110. For the Gairlochian mount, it is $35 for the mount, $9 for the extra little bases, $20 for the rings = $64.
Looked at in this light, the Gairlochian is the clear winner because it is $31 cheaper than the next-cheapest mounting system. The fact that it DOES THE JOB is just a bonus. Oh, and we must not forget: with the Gairlochian, you don't automatically knock $100 off the resale value of your rifle! So the Gairlochian is actually $131 cheaper than the D&T job that is a PITA most of the time and wrecks your rifle.
Got that?
I have been dealing with these rifles for almost 48 years now, and on both sides of the counter. I think I know what I'm talking about.
I have here a lovely old 1904 London Small Arms SMLE Mark I * * * which has had precisely that mount added to it. I paid $75 for the rifle, 90% bore included, simply because that is all it is worth with that mod added. You can ask the other guys here what a 1904 London Small Arms SMLE Mark I * * * is worth WITHOUT the Bubba Mount.
Apart from the fact that I don't dare show the beautiful old rifle to any knowledgeable collectors (for fear that I would end up in the tar-pot myself), this conversion is highly unsatisfactory. It is very difficult to do up the scope-ring screws tight ENOUGH to prevent the scope 'walking' forward a tiny bit every time you pull the trigger.... and it is worse the closer you get to full-house loads. This is not really a terrible bother when you're on the range (unless you want to make a decent group, that is) but, if you're hunting, the rifle generally uses your first shot to spit the scope off the rail, forwards. This can really mess up your backup shot, should you need one.
Yes, you can use a little .22 scope on this mount, or you can go the extra few bucks and get a special set of 1-inch rings which will fit it, but the chances are that you'll never be satisfied with the RESULTS of your labours. Much better to do it right, which is actually cheaper. These days, it runs $15 to $20 a hole to D&T, plus your base, plus rings. So that's $60 minimum for the D&T job plus about $15 for the rail plus another $20 for the rings, which makes $95 and you still aren't happy. With the S&K mount, it is $90 for the base plus $20 for rings = $110. For the Gairlochian mount, it is $35 for the mount, $9 for the extra little bases, $20 for the rings = $64.
Looked at in this light, the Gairlochian is the clear winner because it is $31 cheaper than the next-cheapest mounting system. The fact that it DOES THE JOB is just a bonus. Oh, and we must not forget: with the Gairlochian, you don't automatically knock $100 off the resale value of your rifle! So the Gairlochian is actually $131 cheaper than the D&T job that is a PITA most of the time and wrecks your rifle.
Got that?
I have been dealing with these rifles for almost 48 years now, and on both sides of the counter. I think I know what I'm talking about.
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WesternWannaBe
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Thxs for all the info. I'll for sure look into those mounts smellie. And rest assured I will never D&T any rifle.
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smellie, William Joyce, (Lord Haw Haw) was born in Brooklyn New York
However he had a British passport so they hanged him anyway.
However he had a British passport so they hanged him anyway.
