Lee enfield stripper clips?

...beginning to understand why I haven't seen Smellie around lately. The young ones don't care and would rather do and call things their way. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, aside from the fact that it's wrong.

Listen, the English language is constantly morphing. It has been since it's inception. An apple is an apple which is to say a fruit. That is not to say that all fruit are apples. A charger is a charger and yes it aides in the loading of a magazine. That is not to say it is a "clip" or a "stripper clip" and certainly not vice versa. To refer to them as things they are not announces your ignorance of the matter, to further argue the point speaks to your character. A wise man understands that others (usually older) know things that they themselves do not. Through conversation they take what they find useful and leave the rest but they do so with respect...not incorrect, uneducated argument. How do you expect to learn anything if you know everything? I really don't understand.

BTW my knickers aren't in a twist, I can't wrap my head around why anyone would so stoically wish to remain ignorant.
 
Baal said:
I try to use the correct terminology myself. But can't be bothered getting my knickers in a twist when someone gets is wrong.

The truth is English is a living language and it changes constantly. One of the dictionaries now defines of the the meanings of 'literally' to mean 'figuratively'.
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Well thats just disappointing...
I literally blew a gasket in my brain when I read that.
 
A charger is British terminology. A stripper clip or en-bloc is American terminology depending on the platform. Pissing in everyone cornflakes is what makes most of the knowledgeable contributors just say F**k it and move along. We have the grammar police, the politically correct police, and the terminology police jumping down every newbies throat. With comments like that it does not make this a very welcoming site for promoting gun ownership in Canada. "Just lighten up Francis" and I think you know who you are.
 
plinker 777 said:
Yea, I suppose you're right. Why bother with correct terminology when the incorrect vernacular is sufficient (for some). Let's refer to magazines as "clips"!?

BTW, the Canadian military of the era would correct you. They are not clips, they are in fact chargers for the Lee Enfield rifle's 10 round (you'll notice I didn't use "bullet"!?) magazine...and "they" weren't "Limey's", they were Canadian.

Happy Canada Day

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{psst, the Lee Enfield magazine was treated as a box magazine that could be removed.}
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Hahaha, when did I call a magazine a clip?

If I was British I would most likely call them chargers. Seeing as I'm Canadian and know that chargers and stripper clips are the same thing, I'll call them whichever I bloody well like old chap...

One or the other term is just as correct unless you are the spelling Nazi, and yes the enfield magazine could be removed. Although it usually wasn't removed, it was loaded with strippers. Much quicker and no risk of loosing the mag. They were fitted to the rifle, if you've ever tried to use a random enfield mag in a LE you'll know some of them need tweaking.

Cheerio old sod!
 
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plinker 777 said:
...beginning to understand why I haven't seen Smellie around lately. The young ones don't care and would rather do and call things their way. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, aside from the fact that it's wrong.
Listen, the English language is constantly morphing. It has been since it's inception. An apple is an apple which is to say a fruit. That is not to say that all fruit are apples. A charger is a charger and yes it aides in the loading of a magazine. That is not to say it is a "clip" or a "stripper clip" and certainly not vice versa. To refer to them as things they are not announces your ignorance of the matter, to further argue the point speaks to your character. A wise man understands that others (usually older) know things that they themselves do not. Through conversation they take what they find useful and leave the rest but they do so with respect...not incorrect, uneducated argument. How do you expect to learn anything if you know everything? I really don't understand.
BTW my knickers aren't in a twist, I can't wrap my head around why anyone would so stoically wish to remain ignorant.
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Its not ignorance it is stupidity. The difference is when you are unaware of something you are ignorant, when you are aware but choose to ignore it you are stupid.

Not all us young ones don't care, I care, so that is at least one of us. Thanks for trying to educate him but as shown by the above quote he obviously falls into the second category (and we all know you can't fix stupid).

Butcherbill said:
Hahaha, when did I call a magazine a clip?
If I was British I would most likely call them chargers. Seeing as I'm Canadian and know that chargers and stripper clips are the same thing, I'll call them whichever I bloody well like old chap...
One or the other term is just as correct unless you are the spelling Nazi, and yes the enfield magazine could be removed. Although it usually wasn't removed, it was loaded with strippers. Much quicker and no risk of loosing the mag. They were fitted to the rifle, if you've ever tried to use a random enfield mag in a LE you'll know some of them need tweaking.
Cheerio old sod!
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This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read on CGN. This is the MILSURPS part of the forum where we help educate each over on military related things. If you wish to spout your stupidity please do it on some other subforum as here the proper military designation is what matters. They are Chargers when used with .303 British, not stripper clips. Stripper clips are for other rifles (like Mausers) but in British and Canadian usage they are clearly called Chargers. Just because stripper clip is a common usage word doesn't make it right, magazines are often called clips, but they are not clips (clips are inserted into the magazine and lack a spring, e.g. Steyr M95 Mannlicher clips, M1 Garand en-bloc clips).

Just so you know the spelling Nazi would have nothing to do with this anyways, you didn't misspell a word, you misused it.
 
^^^Sorry, I should've said grammar Nazi.

My bad bruh...

Have you looked up the definition of stripper clip vs charger? I suggest you do so, nothing like edumacating yerself.

Cheerio
 
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Well, I started this tread looking for information and advice, I received quite some from really nice people both here and by PM, and I'm thankfull for that. I'm always looking to know more and I'm glad I learned some more also with your comment. I hope you can understand I'm not the kind to take the word of one for god divine truth and most (good) teachers encourage people to question what they hear and read.

Enfield chargers still have the same function and are under the same subcategories as stripper clips in web stores, for someone that is uninformed the confusion is easy, I don't know why you are being so aggressive about it.

Did I miss someone that came here all: Hey wassup!?! I want some clips for my nazi killing gat yo?!

I don't understand what's calling some of you guys to be so rude.
 
Note to Original Poster: Please change your title to "How to take the fun out of collecting Milsurps".

I own a few Enfields....perhaps more than most. And I perhaps know a thing or two about Enfields. I call them "stripper clips". And the people around me don't get bothered. Not even Smellie.
 
British terminology defines the use of the cartridge packet;

Charger, holds a group of cartridges together for loading the rifle or pistol; ie; Lee-Enfield, Springfield rifles; Styre-Hann pistol.
No charger, still a repeating weapon.

Clip, holds a group of cartridges for loading the rifle and goes into the rifle or pistol with the cartridges. i.e., Gerand rifle, 1895 Mannlicher rifle, Bergman No. 1, 1894.
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/early-automatic-pistols/bergmann-no1-1894/
No clip means you have a single shot weapon.

Magazine, holds a group of cartridges for loading the rifle and is the feed system for the weapon. i.e. M-15, FN C1, Colt 1911A1.
No magazine means you have a single shot weapon.

My 2 cents worth.
 
stencollector said:
Note to Original Poster: Please change your title to "How to take the fun out of collecting Milsurps".

I own a few Enfields....perhaps more than most. And I perhaps know a thing or two about Enfields. I call them "stripper clips". And the people around me don't get bothered. Not even Smellie.
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But what does owning Enfields have to do with chargers, or stripper clips .... or whatever you might call them? Enfields are muzzle loaders.:nest: ;)
 
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