Lee Enfield?

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I picked this up for $500 but I’m not sure what I have and if I did good or did I spend too much for a fancy sporter. I’m thinking of cleaning it up and removing the rippled varnish or whatever it is off the stock with some fine steel wool and give it a wax. Here’s some pics, hopefully some of you experts will know what it is I have. Thanks
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You have the sported remains of a Lee Enfield Mk. I rifle. The rear sight is an aftermarket target competition unit. Perhaps the rifle was used in competition prior to being cut down.
 
You have a Long Lee with it's barrel marked E for Enfield rifling.

It's the predecessor to the SMLE. They're about the same strength and are usually good shooters.

Your receiver has been drilled and tapped for that rear sight, mounted on the left side. This IMHO, makes the rifle not eligible for desporterizing.

The butt and fore stock are both of military configuration, which is likely what the rifle started life as. If there are any markings on the barrel to signify that it was ordered by a gun shop/maker, instead of being purchased from surplus, that would add some value.

There are likely holes just in front of the upper hand guard where the original rear sights used to be.

That rear sight is now unobtainium, unless you find one at a gunshow etc. The magazine is tough to come by and will sell easily in the $200 range. The bolt another $150.

You didn't get a screaming deal on this sporterized rifle but you didn't get taken either IMHO.

If it were mine, I would happily refinish that rife and bring it back to being a lovely sporter. However, I would likely replace the fore end cap, which is a cut down bayonet lug/ferrule to protect the tip and replace it with a nicely rounded or shaped fore end tip to set it off.

Some of the custom houses used horn or ebony or ivory some type of metal wood. You might also look into doing some checkering.

None of this will enhance the value much but it will certainly draw attention at the range and in the field.

If the bore isn't pitted or worn, BONUS.
 
It doesn’t look like the rear sight was drilled and tapped. We’re they soldered on? The nose cap looks custom made and they poured lead in it to hold it steady I guess. Rifling is sharp and shiny.
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I can not help on the ID - seems to have been done on the previous posts. From my limited experience with the SMLE and the No. 4's, take the time to find a good reference manual before you start to disassemble it. If the butt screw is like on a No. 1, you can or will split the rear end of the forearm by just cranking on screws that you find. Might want to talk with a wood worker about removing that old varnish / old finish - you really want to keep mechanical abrasion to a minimum - do not really want to remove any of that old wood by sanding, etc. A great project piece if you want to fuss and "restore" it - else, can leave it as is. As posted, bore condition might tell you if it can be a shooter - may as well have the headspace checked at the same time before firing it.

Ha! My post too late - I see that you already have it apart!!!
 
The target sight replaced the original long range sight (volley sight) without alteration to the rifle. The nosecap is the original, but repurposed - the bayonet mount has been cut off. The forend has been shortened.
 
A very cool old piece. There are a number of people on this sight familiar with that era of rifle - perhaps they will comment about the markings on that barrel. I do see a "broad arrow" immediately after that "08" - from my limited knowledge that "broad arrow" was to signify British military ownership, at least at one time. The King of England in early 1900's would have been Edward VII, followed by George V about 1910 - so "GR" below a crown would belong to King George's time -"GR = George Rex = George "the King" - I do not know what initials were used to signify King Edward - most of the proof stamps on British military armament reflected ownership by the King of the time...
 
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The butt socket is marked 1896 with the crown and VR - Victoria. A lot of the MLE rifle that wound up in Canada are dated 1896. The barrel is probably a 1908 replacement.
 
Interesting thought about a fire causing those blisters. Perhaps, alternatively, was a "grippy" finish done deliberately for the apparent target shooting duty? I do not know. Might be worth researching before removing it. Might be showing the user "wear patterns" from how the rifle was held? Also, from the few pictures shown, is the butt stock same age / same condition as the forearm? It is what it is - can not change that. Worth doing the research to clarify, before going after it with chemicals or tools...
 
Because I do not know, is that one like an SMLE No. 1 - the bolt through the butt has a squared end that protrudes through the wrist and "notches" into a metal plate at the rear of the fore-arm?
 
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