Lee Loader kit?

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Does anyone still use these?

I have them for the 6.5x55, the t757 Mauser, 270 Winchester and 7.62 Russian.

I've only loaded for the 6.5 and haven't tried the loads out at the range yet.

I just bought some bullets for the 7mm and the 270 so I'm tempted to try rolling up a few for the 270.

I just got a scoop kit too the other day and some of my kits are missing the scoops.

I was thinking of using the 4cc scoop as it it supposed to provide 55.2 grains of H4831. Should be about right for a test load wouldn't it?


We've been using 57 grains at my friend's place when we load using the full bench mounted press and all that other gear.
 
Hi. Lee Loaders can make decent ammo. Lots of shooters/hunters started with 'em. Started with a .243 LL myself. Used one for the 'Great BP Experiment' too. Trapdoor carbines don't use 70 grains of BP and the bullets need lube. Cast 405 grain bullets wit h70 grains of BP hurt out of a TD carbine. No internet in those days to show me the error of my ways. snicker.
The only downside is that they neck size only. No good for new brass or once fired out of another rifle.
Throw the scoops away and use a scale. The scoops can vary the powder charge plus or minus a full grain. CC's aren't a unit of measure for gun powder either. CC's are a unit of measure for volume.
"...Should be about right..." What bullet weight? 55.2 of H4831 is below minimum for a 130 or 140. .2 over minimum for a 135 or a 150. 1.2 grains over max for a 160.
 
i have the .303 brit one and it works good enough it only neck sizes the brass witch is ok with me as it lasts longer

one thing i dont like is it dose not flare the neck for cast bullets
 
Still have LL kit for .303Br and .30-06. Don't use them, but will never get rid of them. I don't use them anymore since I bought a Lee Hand Press. That's what I use for range workups now. All the bull work is done at home on the press and once I have settled on the best charge weight for the cartridge I am using, then I will load that and seat the bullets at different depths until I get happy, then I will make that the "favourite" load and go ahead and charge that and seat the bullets on a hundred rounds with the hand press. I can then sight in my rifle with my preferred round and go home. It is also quite easy then to just go home and necksize that just fired brass and reload that empty brass so that you have LOTS for practice and some left for actual hunting (20rds or so).

Saves going home and then making a second trip to the range if you are happy with it.

AS for the scoops...if you get creative, you can mix and match different scoops to get hotter charges closer to the max. But for accuracy, I have found that the scoops are only good for hunting purposes where a half grain doesn't make that much difference in your 3" group.

Want more consistent accuracy for more precision shooting? Go with a scale. I only use the scoops for cartridges I will use under 150yds. Over that, I use a thrower.
 
I would never measure smokeless charges with a scoop, you need a scale, and if you use a scoop I'd weigh every charge. For field loading, you can bell case mouths for cast bullets lightly with a pair of needlenose pliers or some such. You are better off to make a cone shaped end to a bolt with a grinder, the bolt should be the same thread as any die you decide to use, keep the bolt in the case with the die.
 
How I started. The scoop measurements they give you are all pretty tame, but that also translates into safe. Nothing wrong with the Lee Loaders.
 
A scoop can have a greater accuracy than people on here are saying.
Just as in using a powder measure, the key is being consistant.
The instructions and scoops that go with the Lee kit give, as someone has said, tame loads. Very tame loads. Thus, a scoop as they prescribe, could not possibly produce an over load. So just load it up to the same every time, and shoot away. The accuracy can be excellent. Actually, when working on groups at 100 metres, the exact amount of powder in the case every time, is a way down the list of what makes accurate ammunition.
You don't believe me? Load five rounds of a proven, accurate load, only vary the powder in each round, so the highest loaded is a full grain higher than the lowest in the group. Fire this from your best rest, then see what you think about being super accurate in loading the powder.
 
H4831 said:
A scoop can have a greater accuracy than people on here are saying.
Just as in using a powder measure, the key is being consistant.
The instructions and scoops that go with the Lee kit give, as someone has said, tame loads. Very tame loads. Thus, a scoop as they prescribe, could not possibly produce an over load. So just load it up to the same every time, and shoot away. The accuracy can be excellent. Actually, when working on groups at 100 metres, the exact amount of powder in the case every time, is a way down the list of what makes accurate ammunition.
You don't believe me? Load five rounds of a proven, accurate load, only vary the powder in each round, so the highest loaded is a full grain higher than the lowest in the group. Fire this from your best rest, then see what you think about being super accurate in loading the powder.
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I agree wholeheartedly with what Bruce has said here!! People are just far too anal about slight powder weight differences.
Volume measurement can make very accurate ammo IF YOU are consistent in use of said scoop.
I started out with a Lee Loader way back when also. One of my most accurate [but quite mild] loads was made with this setup, using the scoop.
I had many groups that were sub-moa with this particular load, and the game I shot did not know the difference!
Regards, Eagleye.
 
H4831 said:
A scoop can have a greater accuracy than people on here are saying.
Just as in using a powder measure, the key is being consistant.

You don't believe me? Load five rounds of a proven, accurate load, only vary the powder in each round, so the highest loaded is a full grain higher than the lowest in the group. Fire this from your best rest, then see what you think about being super accurate in loading the powder.
Click to expand...


H4831: I read an article by a competition shooter who shoots thousands of rounds a month, and NONE are weighed. ALL are dropped from a measure of some sort.
pretty much backs up exactly what you say. Measured loads can be accurate. consistancy is the key!
 
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