Left Hand shooting in IPSC

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Good evening,

Semi automatic Handgun, Beginner class
Using a Para or C-85 for IPSC shooting.

So many questions about how I should start!
Could someone recommend where to get some of the basic advice such as
1. good ear protection?
2. Maybe a Para from Roger Kotanko?
3. How many magazines to start with?
4. Holster; anything to watch for when buying?
5. Lock box for transportation?
6. Reloading equipment?
7. Ammunition size (most economic choice, best bullet shape to use, etc.)
I want to do this right.
Please consider that you are answering a beginner here.
I wanted to thank you for taking the time to answer me.

Regards,

Harry Tempelman

Member
Waterford Monday night IPSC group indoors range
 
Hello Harry

I'll take a crack at your questions

1. good ear protection? - Buy something designed for the purpose - Peltor or something similiar...If your going to just wear muffs...get a pretty high Protection Raiting (about 28) I'd suggest double plugging...using muffs and foam or plastic ear plugs...makes a big differemce indoors...or if you happen to be on the range with Open Class guns

2. Maybe a Para from Roger Kotanko? - Once you decide on brand...Roger would be a good guy to go to. There's lot's of choices...Since you seem to be involved with IPSC practice...you should get a chance to see a wide varirty of brands...just pick what you like (Para, SVI, STI, CZ, Tanfoglio...)

3. How many magazines to start with? - Minimum of 5...the more the better

4. Holster; anything to watch for when buying? - Again...lots' of choices. If you're looking at a race holster CR Speed is a popular choice for the Para. Get 4 or 5 mag pouches and a 2 piece belt (inner bet is velcro and goes through your belt loops...outer belt just attaches to it) Don't skimp on the rig...

5. Lock box for transportation? - Lot's to choose from...I like Pelican (most camera stores have them)

6. Reloading equipment? - Only one answer...Dillon. 550 or 650 (650 is auto indexing)

7. Ammunition size (most economic choice, best bullet shape to use, etc.) - Most popular in Standard Division is .40 cal with 180 grain bullets. Some people like the feel of lighter bullets (165 gr) and heavier bullets (200 gr) I prefer hollow points (good at knocking down steel and no exposed lead at the base. Lot's of brands (Montana Gold, Hornady Action Pistol, Frontier, Zero...) I'd stay away from lead...

Drop me a PM once you're signed up for a Black Badge...(you can find info here http://www.ipsc-ont.org/bbcourse.htm) and please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions...

Regards
Craig Stoklosar
IPSC Ontario


htempelman said:
Semi automatic Handgun, Beginner class
Using a Para or C-85 for IPSC shooting.

So many questions about how I should start!
Could someone recommend where to get some of the basic advice such as
1. good ear protection?
2. Maybe a Para from Roger Kotanko?
3. How many magazines to start with?
4. Holster; anything to watch for when buying?
5. Lock box for transportation?
6. Reloading equipment?
7. Ammunition size (most economic choice, best bullet shape to use, etc.)
I want to do this right.
Please consider that you are answering a beginner here.
I wanted to thank you for taking the time to answer me.

Regards,

Harry Tempelman

Member
Waterford Monday night IPSC group indoors range
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htempelman said:
Good evening,

Semi automatic Handgun, Beginner class
Using a Para or C-85 for IPSC shooting.

So many questions about how I should start!
Could someone recommend where to get some of the basic advice such as
1. good ear protection?
2. Maybe a Para from Roger Kotanko?
3. How many magazines to start with?
4. Holster; anything to watch for when buying?
5. Lock box for transportation?
6. Reloading equipment?
7. Ammunition size (most economic choice, best bullet shape to use, etc.)
I want to do this right.
Please consider that you are answering a beginner here.
I wanted to thank you for taking the time to answer me.

Regards,

Harry Tempelman

Member
Waterford Monday night IPSC group indoors range
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I like:

1) Dillon electronic ear muffs good when you need to listen to your instructor
2) STI Edge .40 para 16-40 is good. Try several and buy what you can afford
3) 5-6 Mags 4-5 mag pouches I use CR speed belt and mag pouches.
4) CR speed or any holster that covers the trigger. Safariland has good ones too. See if someone will let you try theirs.
5) Pelican is good but expensive. I have several including cheap plastic. Use a combination lock. Too many people have to cut their locks off when they forget their keys at home.:redface:
6) Dillon You might want to find a friend or a friendly shooter who will let you try his equipment first so he can teach you the basics on his 550 or 650 before you buy but I like the Dillon 650 with all the bells and whistles, especially powder check die for the beginner
7) 40 cal fmj (Full metal jacket or cmj (complete metal jacket. Brass is cheap and your shooting major in standard div.

Good luck
 
Hi Quigly

I talked to this person last Monday Nov 06 2006. Basically I answered all his questions and he is not ready for a badge course yet has just started out and joined a club.
 
Re: hearing protection

Here is a tip, use double protection.

Use the small faom ear plugs by EAR or similar at all times while on the range and use compact earmuffs like those Berretta sell etc. as well when shooting.

The reason to double plug is 1/ protect your hearing especially indoors and 2/ to help prevent flinching from the noise.

Most top shooters double plug to avoid outside noise disturbing them while they shoot....same reason to avoid electronic ear muffs...expensive and you hear too much.

Oh by the way don't buy anything till you talk to some people who actually know what you will need.

When you do buy, buy the best you can afford and only spend the money once.

Mike
 
Ipsik said:
Oh by the way don't buy anything till you talk to some people who actually know what you will need.

When you do buy, buy the best you can afford and only spend the money once.
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Best info going.

Try before you buy always. Use what you have for a pistol right now and just go out and try it until you know what you want to do.

Peltor Ultimate 10 for muffs and definitely double plug - get used to it - you will run into guys with some loud pistols.

A difference in what the previous posts state to what I would recommend is getting a cheap single stage reloading press - used even. With that setup learn the in's and out's of reloading before you go to a Dillon 650 or 1050. That and get a solid kydex no frills non race holster. Bladetech sells great holsters.

Good luck.
 
The smartest thing you could do right now is start going to tons of matches and asking questions of everyone. See what equipment is most popular, which equipment is most effective, and how it is set up and individually tuned or customized. Actually handle the equipment to get a real world sense of how it would fit your needs. Nothing gives a more solid impression than tactile sensory input. Make some notes, compare all of the many choices and try to make an informed decision about which combination of goodies would work best for YOU within your budget. One tip: if you want to shorten the learning curve on this stuff and reduce the needless expenses, look directly at what the top shooters in whatever division you are going to play in are using, and start your research there. Most of these guys have stripped their equipment down to the essentials. They've tried everything and discarded the stuff that doesn't really work, or doesn't last.
 
If you are shooting alongside guys that already shoot ipsc, there is a good chance a number of them already hand load, and probably better chance they load on a progressive. Pick their brain, and ask to help out in their loading room in exchange for learning the ropes.

I wouldn't wish an enemy to load pistol ammo on a single stage press, it is just a waste of time.
 
Great questions and great advice guys!

Ya can't go wrong with what Ipsik and Robbie say. Look at the top guys in the division you're going to shoot in and buy the best you can afford! I wish I had done that when I first got into it.

It's really good to see the high end players like Rob and Mike give advice to someone who is starting out.:)

Don't be afraid to follow Rob's advice and talk to the top end shooters at matches, most, if not all are very helpful and alot of fun to hangout with and watch!

Then again, I heard that Ipsik is just some new guy.... what does he know???Right, Mike?;)

As far as reloading goes, I started out with a Dillon 550 and still use it! If I was going to upgrade anything right now it would be my press and I would go with the 650...I don't need it but I'd like to have it!
 
htempelman said:
Good evening,

Semi automatic Handgun, Beginner class
Using a Para or C-85 for IPSC shooting.

So many questions about how I should start!
Could someone recommend where to get some of the basic advice such as
1. good ear protection?
2. Maybe a Para from Roger Kotanko?
3. How many magazines to start with?
4. Holster; anything to watch for when buying?
5. Lock box for transportation?
6. Reloading equipment?
7. Ammunition size (most economic choice, best bullet shape to use, etc.)
I want to do this right.
Please consider that you are answering a beginner here.
I wanted to thank you for taking the time to answer me.

Regards,

Harry Tempelman

Member
Waterford Monday night IPSC group indoors range
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Hello Harry. I am also a left hand shooter. There are not a lot of gear out there for left hand shooters , trust me I have looked. I have tried just about every kind of gear out there here is what I shoot and why.

1) Pelter electronic. They do not have electronic but it helps when talking to people.

2)Para's are all right but for a Little more money look at the edge. If you compare the two after you do every thing to the para there almost the same money. Spend the money once.

3)5

4)I would start with a blade tech or similar holster until you get comfortable with drawing from a holster. After that it depends on the gun you are shooting. If you go with the para go with CR speed holster ( you will have to modify it. You will have to drill out the 2 holes to make the holster left handed. If you hit the treads in the holes with the drill bit you will destroy them so you have to be careful. ) If you are shooting a STI I would go with a ghost holster. As for belt and mag pouches I would go with JR inner and outer belt and pouches. You can get them from Freedom Ventures it is good gear and he is also a sponsor.

5)what ever you like. I would get a good range bag a tournament bag from shooters connection would be my choice.

6)This one is easy. Dillon. Does not matter which one but a Dillon. I started with a 550 then went to the 650 and now use a 1050. Like the gun if you are going to get into IPSC heavy spend the money once and get the 1050. I have been there and some one told me to go strait for the 1050 but instead waisted money on the 550 and the 650.

7)Depends on what division you are planning on shooting. If you are going to shoot STD. I would go with 40S&W with 180 grain bullet.
If you are going to shoot open I would go with 125 JHP 38 super comp.

Just my 2 cents

Joe
 
I would say maybe start off with something easy to shoot like a Glock 17. Get some mags and some basic equipment. Its an easy, control free simple design. Plus later on down the road you could always sell it and it should hold its dollar value well, if you want a more specific gun for like standard or production. I had a CZ85 for years, theres pluses and minus to them. I like the STIs alot but it also requires a bigger initial investment. Plus it would be easier I think later on to sell a Glock 17 vs. say an STI edge.

For Holsters, theres also Uncle Mikes Kydex which is a cheap alternative.

Paras are nice, but based on my experience their mags seems maybe not as durable as some other choices..when you drop them..
 
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