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Talking with Rick the other day it appears that the government is making this as hard, drawn out and expensive as possible. Having to use information requests for several things, which takes time.
He has spent a great deal of time in assisting others with their actions. Looked like he had about 7 yellowpage phone books size wise in affidavits for the Hipwell case. Another stack of documents for the action Arkadi is dealing with. Busy guy to be sure.
I won't say anything that I learned talking with him about his action, I will let him divulge what he feels he can, but Rick deserves as much support as possible for his commitment to the firearms community.
 
Gobc said:
What is the timeline of the lawsuit? I know you ATRS can't disclose too many details on the advise of their lawyers, but has a trail date been set? Can we be notified on the details of lawsuits timeline?
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As no-one mentioned, the government is not playing nice at all. Absolutely every shred of info I want I am having to do an information request, which is very time consuming.
Also trying to support 4 other actions that are closer than mine is to being filed or already filed seems to be taking precedent.

The action ATRS is going to file will be very different than any of the others as I will be naming many individuals as well as the government.
I received some documents from a dealer along with a couple of individuals that came from the CFO's office that have delayed filing until I can ascertain all the names.

Depending on how long it takes to get all of the info requests back will determine the timeline for filing. Once filed everything then it becomes public record and I can be much clearer and provide better updates.
I think most of the gunnies will like what we are brewing up, the feds, not so much.
 
apexanimal said:
Donated, never knew the bit about it being illegal for them to change an FRT more than 12 months after they issued it. This case should be a no brainer if you guys can get an honest judge.
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Yes and its especially galling that while it is illegal, it is not an offence to do so, meaning that while you can go to court and win to have the illegal changes overturned, the spineless government drone who blatantly broke the law will never be held accountable for it.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
As no-one mentioned, the government is not playing nice at all. Absolutely every shred of info I want I am having to do an information request, which is very time consuming.
Also trying to support 4 other actions that are closer than mine is to being filed or already filed seems to be taking precedent.

The action ATRS is going to file will be very different than any of the others as I will be naming many individuals as well as the government.
I received some documents from a dealer along with a couple of individuals that came from the CFO's office that have delayed filing until I can ascertain all the names.

Depending on how long it takes to get all of the info requests back will determine the timeline for filing. Once filed everything then it becomes public record and I can be much clearer and provide better updates.
I think most of the gunnies will like what we are brewing up, the feds, not so much.
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Thank you for the reply. I didn't even realize you haven't filed yet, but I understand how much of a time consuming process this is. Based on what I understand of the development of the Modern Sporter, I can't see the crown having any argument at all. My friends and I have often discussed the current legality of the Modern Sporter and I have reminded them that the best person to sue the government are already doing it.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Hoping to change that.
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I've made a couple donations and will continue as I am able. I really hope you're successful holding some of these people to account. I'm so sick of government bureaucrats being able to do whatever the hell they want, often illegally, without consequence.

My parents lost their business and life savings because of such a schmuck working for one of the revenue agencies. I really don't want to see the same happen to the good folks at ATRS. In our case a govt drone lied to our attorneys, played dirty tricks with my mother including threatening her with jail time, and made false statements to the judge overseeing the case. No consequences. My mother subsequently went into a major depression, got cancer, and died very young.

Down south it's just come out from Judicial Watch/DOJ that upwards of 12 attorneys working for the Mueller team destroyed evidence on 20 separate occasions. These people have an agenda, a total lack of ethics, and there's no low they won't stoop to imo. I think our RCMP's leadership is full of the same types of people, so I hope we can keep the lawyers properly funded so that they can do their jobs with the resources they need.

These people are intoxicated by the bit of power they have and thrive on destroying the lives of people that actually build things.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
As no-one mentioned, the government is not playing nice at all. Absolutely every shred of info I want I am having to do an information request, which is very time consuming.
Also trying to support 4 other actions that are closer than mine is to being filed or already filed seems to be taking precedent.

The action ATRS is going to file will be very different than any of the others as I will be naming many individuals as well as the government.
I received some documents from a dealer along with a couple of individuals that came from the CFO's office that have delayed filing until I can ascertain all the names.

Depending on how long it takes to get all of the info requests back will determine the timeline for filing. Once filed everything then it becomes public record and I can be much clearer and provide better updates.
I think most of the gunnies will like what we are brewing up, the feds, not so much.
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I am anxiously waiting for the updates but I do understand some may be next year.
 
Well I can't say much on advice of council, but shiite is about to get very real here in the next few days. Waiting for council to confirm time, date and location.
Got a call from the CFO and they want to come by for a talk. Uh Huh, a talk. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight and I am concerned about nothing, but somehow I can't think this bodes well.
They claim the got a complaint from someone (nope they do not give names) who is on CGN regarding a post someone allegedly made somewhere on this forum. Yup pretty vague I know. But all I have for now.
Needless to say I did not see this coming and will be penning yet another retainer cheque. Any help is gratefully accepted.
 
GoldPrime said:
Doesn't sound good, hopefully they realize that they have no legal standing to mess with your business. As Mik said, it would be wise to have a lawyer present if possible. Good luck.
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It is all in the lawyers hands now. Feels sorta like having a body guard on hand, but only for dealing with the police. Weird considering the police are supposed to serve and protect, or something along that line.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Well I can't say much on advice of council, but shiite is about to get very real here in the next few days. Waiting for council to confirm time, date and location.
Got a call from the CFO and they want to come by for a talk. Uh Huh, a talk. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight and I am concerned about nothing, but somehow I can't think this bodes well.
They claim the got a complaint from someone (nope they do not give names) who is on CGN regarding a post someone allegedly made somewhere on this forum. Yup pretty vague I know. But all I have for now.
Needless to say I did not see this coming and will be penning yet another retainer cheque. Any help is gratefully accepted.
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Mother effer's know that you are going to take them to cleaners for their BS and want to try to hump you dry with more BS while they can. They may have been the ones who made the 'suspicious' post after all it is a public forum intentionally to a Karen fired up, and that gives them cause. -tin foil off-
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Well I can't say much on advice of council, but shiite is about to get very real here in the next few days. Waiting for council to confirm time, date and location.
Got a call from the CFO and they want to come by for a talk. Uh Huh, a talk. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight and I am concerned about nothing, but somehow I can't think this bodes well.
They claim the got a complaint from someone (nope they do not give names) who is on CGN regarding a post someone allegedly made somewhere on this forum. Yup pretty vague I know. But all I have for now.
Needless to say I did not see this coming and will be penning yet another retainer cheque. Any help is gratefully accepted.
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Sounds possibly like more of a shakedown than a friendly talk. But let's all hope this isn't the case.

Sad to see what honest hardworking people like yourself (and your crew) are going through.

Wishing you the best in the coming days.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Well I can't say much on advice of council, but shiite is about to get very real here in the next few days. Waiting for council to confirm time, date and location.
Got a call from the CFO and they want to come by for a talk. Uh Huh, a talk. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight and I am concerned about nothing, but somehow I can't think this bodes well.
They claim the got a complaint from someone (nope they do not give names) who is on CGN regarding a post someone allegedly made somewhere on this forum. Yup pretty vague I know. But all I have for now.
Needless to say I did not see this coming and will be penning yet another retainer cheque. Any help is gratefully accepted.
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This is courage. Thank you Rick. This is also so disturbing that in Canada a law abiding firearms retailer must fear repercussions for his business and livelihood for simple asking questions and filing a lawsuit. These people are supposed to serve and protect the law abiding, not intimidate them with vague allegations of somebody posting something online. They can ask questions over the phone. Sorry about your stress Rick.

Steve
 
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