Legal status of tracer ammunition

I don't know why folks insist on arguing with someone who has been in the explosives industry for 14 years. I might happen to know a little more on the subject than you do.

I'll repeat this very simple concept that is in black and white in the Explosives Act: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POSSESS ANY EXPLOSIVE, PERIOD, FULL STOP. That means all explosives, for your purposes, are BANNED. The Regulations make EXCEPTIONS for you to have explosives, and ONLY through those exceptions are things legal. This is not the United States where everything goes until the government says it's not; NOTHING goes here, until the government says it DOES.

Road flares don't explode either but they are regulated as an explosive. Model rocket engines don't explode but are regulated as an explosive. Tracer composition is most certainly pyrotechnic (consisting of a metallic peroxide, magnesium, and binders) and is most certainly regulated by the Explosives Act and Regulations.
I do completely agree. Much like Section 91 and 92 of the CC, it is banned, except by authorization.

What is actually being discussed here is whether or not tracer ammo could be authorized i.e. tracer ammo is not specifically banned, thus could be approved, unlike AP handgun ammo. The semantics of "illegal vs legal" under the act are not actually what is being discussed, since all the non-approved ammo in the country also falls into this category, and thus is "illegal" under the act. i.e. Dominion, imperial, Portuguese surplus, Norinco, etc.
 
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Ahh, now that's a different case. That might be a more difficult proposition because the Regulations only make exceptions for "safety cartridges" which exclude tracers, so new regulations would need to be tabled permitting them, or tracers added to the definition of a safety cartridge. I doubt the latter would happen as I believe the "safety" part means an inert projectile (UN dangerous goods numbers in fact distinguish between ball vs. tracer). Definitely not impossible though, ERD is open to change if you present a reasonable argument.
 
Ahh, now that's a different case. That might be a more difficult proposition because the Regulations only make exceptions for "safety cartridges" which exclude tracers, so new regulations would need to be tabled permitting them, or tracers added to the definition of a safety cartridge. I doubt the latter would happen as I believe the "safety" part means an inert projectile (UN dangerous goods numbers in fact distinguish between ball vs. tracer). Definitely not impossible though, ERD is open to change if you present a reasonable argument.
Yes, certainly not 6.1 "safety cartridges" under the current regs. Tracers would currently be placed into 6.3

As for UN numbers, last I put thought to it UN0012 applies to tracer ammo as there is a dual description "Cartridges, Small Arms" or "Cartridges for weapons, inert projectile". I have not seen any specific UN number for tracer ammunition. 4b1t is shipped under 0012.
 
Would most LEOs even know what a tracer looks like just by looking at a bullet? I dont.

Tracer bullets usually have the tip dipped in a dye. On the common 7.62x39 tracer bullets, it is green (the only colour I've seen). Non-tracer rounds look like regular plain bullets.
 
Don't they still sell 12ga Tracer shotshells?
I remember something to that effect a few years ago but I strongly suspect they were phosphorescent (ie. glow in the dark) rather than pyrotechnic, or maybe even simply brightly colored shot. I remember they were pretty expensive. No idea what happened to them.
 
This would be an interesting court case. Under the Explosives act the definition is as follows “explosive” means any thing that is made, manufactured or used to produce an explosion or a detonation or pyrotechnic effect, and includes any thing prescribed to be an explosive by the regulations, but does not include gases, organic peroxides or any thing prescribed not to be an explosive by the regulations;


It should also be a Regulatory issue. As I read

Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted, SOR/98-462
PART 5

PROHIBITED AMMUNITION

Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10

1. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, including KTW, THV and 5.7 x 28 mm P-90 cartridges.

2. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

4. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as “fléchettes” or any similar projectiles.
There would be a non crimianal fine if i'm not correct.

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Explosives Regulatory Division
June 2008

3.1 Products Not Authorized in Canada
Certain cartridges and accessories will not be authorized. For example, if a cartridge (or ammunition) is included in the Criminal Code regulations under SOR/98-462 “Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted,” the request will be addressed accordingly.

The following types of cartridges and accessories will not be authorized for commercial purposes:

•cartridges and projectiles that are prohibited under the Criminal Code (R.S., c. C-34, s.1.); this includes any cartridge that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, for example, any ammunition described as armour piercing (AP) or with a projectile that is made of a pointed thick jacket with a heavy core, or that is coated with teflon;
•frangible ammunition;
•ammunition that includes a tracer, an incendiary composition, a high explosive or other similar military-type ammunition;
•cartridges that contain tear gas, mace or other gas, or any liquid, spray, powder or other substance that is capable of injuring, immobilizing or otherwise incapacitating any person, when it is to be used for the purpose of injuring, immobilizing or otherwise incapacitating any person by the discharge of the gas or liquid (note that if the proven intended use is against animals, the cartridge may be considered for authorization and will be subject to a product registration from Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada);
•cartridges judged excessively violent by the Chief Inspector of Explosives;
•cartridges not properly labeled;
•cartridges that have a history of injuries due to poor design or manufacture;
•cartridges containing corrosive primers using potassium chlorate as the oxidizer in the priming compound, and mercury fulminate primers.


As a regulatory issue, it only mentions tracers in the commercial sense, not the possession as one would expect. So if a police officer were familiar with the act, what sort of fine or sentence could be occurred?
 
As a regulatory issue, it only mentions tracers in the commercial sense, not the possession as one would expect. So if a police officer were familiar with the act, what sort of fine or sentence could be occurred?
The Explosives Act is a federal act, so to my knowledge breaching it is a criminal offense. What exactly you would be charged with I'm not sure. As I said before, I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one here.

In any case it may be reasonable to assume that this issue is far from a priority on most any cop's agenda. ERD only moved on the 7.62x39 tracers because of the sheer volume being unlawfully imported. It is also reasonable to assume that whoever was importing them in the first place did so without knowledge of the Act and Regulations and it was just an honest (albeit expensive and embarassing) mistake.

Out of curiosity does anyone know what became of the imported rounds? I know they surface on the EE occasionally, with most people being told erroneously that they are completely legal.
 
So do tracers after they fall on some steel wool, just in case anyone is in a panic......
The issue really isn't tracers, it is the fact that being in possession of non-approved ammo is an offense under the explsoives act. This means that most shooters are breaking the law.
 
The issue really isn't tracers, it is the fact that being in possession of non-approved ammo is an offense under the explsoives act. This means that most shooters are breaking the law.

I'm sure they realize the futility of trying to do anything about ammo that is already in the country. Just as they realize shooters will eventually "dispose" of all that *illegal* ammo anyway.;) We just have to make sure we get more new ammo approved.
 
I'm sure they realize the futility of trying to do anything about ammo that is already in the country. Just as they realize shooters will eventually "dispose" of all that *illegal* ammo anyway.;) We just have to make sure we get more new ammo approved.
NRCAN-ERD barely has two pennies to rub together, let alone go after people. But, that is not the issue.
 
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