Legal status of tracer ammunition

Indeed. And claiming tracer ammo is a "signalling device" is about as legit as claiming a stick of dynamite is a "bear banger." :rolleyes: ERD may be a small department but they're not stupid.

And for the record, ERD has some enforcement capabilities as explosives inspectors are authorized to execute search warrants, seize explosives, etc. however it is almost always left up to the RCMP. Explosives inspectors are not cops.
 
Onagoth said:
PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
Manufacture, use, etc.

6. Except as authorized under this Act and subject to such exemptions as may be provided by regulation, no person shall
(a) make or manufacture explosives either wholly or in part except in a licensed factory;
(b) sell any authorized explosive unless that person is the operator of a licensed factory or licensed magazine and is authorized to sell explosives;
(c) store any explosive in a magazine that is not a licensed magazine;
(d) have in his possession any explosive; or
(e) carry on, except in a licensed factory, any of the following processes, namely,
(i) dividing into its component parts, or otherwise breaking up or unmaking, any explosive,

(ii) making fit for use any damaged explosive, or

(iii) remaking, altering or repairing any explosive.

R.S., c. E-15, s. 5; 1974-75-76, c. 60, s. 3.


It would seem so, as the regulations don't allow for the possession of tracer rounds
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Isnt ammo of any type considered an explosive? The RCMP gave me guff over them not having authority over "explosives" back when I asked if i could have loaded mags in a safe with my unlocked 1911a1..........and all i was asking was for clarification of the Firearms Act which mentions ammuntion storage.

Looks like another angle they could use to shut down shooters. Ammo = explosives = you cant make it (reload) and you cant own it.
 
CanadianReich said:
Isnt ammo of any type considered an explosive? The RCMP gave me guff over them not having authority over "explosives" back when I asked if i could have loaded mags in a safe with my unlocked 1911a1..........and all i was asking was for clarification of the Firearms Act which mentions ammuntion storage.

Looks like another angle they could use to shut down shooters. Ammo = explosives = you cant make it (reload) and you cant own it.
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You already can't own it if it is not on the approved list.

Chris
 
CanadianReich said:
Isnt ammo of any type considered an explosive? The RCMP gave me guff over them not having authority over "explosives" back when I asked if i could have loaded mags in a safe with my unlocked 1911a1..........and all i was asking was for clarification of the Firearms Act which mentions ammuntion storage.

Looks like another angle they could use to shut down shooters. Ammo = explosives = you cant make it (reload) and you cant own it.
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Ammo = safety cartridges.

Powder and primers = explosives (as far as the current law goes)

I do not manufacture powder and primers, I buy them.

Over the counter.

Now quit giving them ideas!:mad:
 
CanadianReich said:
Looks like another angle they could use to shut down shooters. Ammo = explosives = you cant make it (reload) and you cant own it.
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The Regulations specifically permit you to reload your own safety cartridges for your personal use. As they are an explosive that has not been authorized by CERL they are not lawful to sell or give away (which is why handloads are not permitted in the EE); you may make/have as many as you like, given storage regs are followed, etc.

The sky is not falling here guys, geez.
 
This is an easily answered topic. Tracer ammunition is 100% legal for sale and use in Canada. So says both the Feds and RCMP.... simple. RCMP state that be careful where you use this ammunition as it can sometimes cause fires. There is NOTHING written that prohibits tracers from being imported and sold in Canada. Read the ERD website if you don't believe me.
 
When I read the last message I got hopeful there had been change, so I went to NRCan website and have no idea what you are talking about. If you are aware of a change, please post references to it. I'm not attacking you; I'd love to know about it if I've missed it.

At the NRCan site I searched 'tracer', and ( http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/minerals-metals/node/4320 ) read:

"Cartridges, Classification and Authorization, General and Detailed Requirements for Type C Explosives, Explosives Regulatory Division, December 2010"

Which pretty clearly still includes:
"3.1 Products Not Authorized in Canada

Certain cartridges and accessories will not be authorized. For example, if a cartridge (or ammunition) is included in the Criminal Code regulations under SOR/98-462 “Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted,” the request will be addressed accordingly.

The following types of cartridges and accessories will not be authorized for commercial purposes:

ammunition that includes a tracer, an incendiary composition, a high explosive or other similar military-type ammunition; "

I wouldn't always take RCMP advice on obscure ammo matters. I can't afford the lawyer bills when they're wrong?
 
CZgunNUTZ said:
This is an easily answered topic. Tracer ammunition is 100% legal for sale and use in Canada. So says both the Feds and RCMP.... simple. RCMP state that be careful where you use this ammunition as it can sometimes cause fires. There is NOTHING written that prohibits tracers from being imported and sold in Canada. Read the ERD website if you don't believe me.
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Thanks for coming out, newbie. Read more, post less. Here's an email from the Chief Inspector of Explosives who knows a lot more than you do about ammunition.

In the current Explosives Regulations pursuant to the Explosives Act, it is not lawful to possess or sell cartridges with tracers. As you mention, there is a definition for safety cartridges. See section 2 of these Regulations.

“safety cartridge”
“safety cartridge” means a cartridge for any shotgun, gun, rifle, pistol, revolver and industrial gun the case of which can be extracted after firing and that is so closed as to prevent any explosion in one cartridge being communicated to another cartridge but does not include tracer, incendiary, high explosive or other similar military type cartridges; (cartouche de sûreté);

Jean-Luc Arpin
A/Director, Chief Inspector of Explosives, Directeur/I, Inspecteur en Chef des Explosifs
Tel; 613-948-5170 Fax; 613-948-5195
cell: 613.355.1291
email/courriel; jarpin@nrcan.gc.ca,
Explosives Regulatory Division/ Division de la réglementation sur les explosifs, Natural Resources Canada, 580 Booth street, 10th floor, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0E4
Ressources naturelles Canada, 580 rue Booth, 10e étage, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0E4
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If you've got an issue with that speak to him since he's in charge.
 
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