Legalities of bringing components back to Canada from U.S.

The car was refused there, not the person.

It’s 100% a grievous charter violation to be refused entry to Canada as a Canadian. What do you think is going to happen if you refuse? Get picked up and tossed across?

Exactly, and instead of abandoning the car at the border they chose to take it back.
 
Where can we go to read the sections of law/regulations that say CBSA can deny a Canadian citizen entry into Canada and compel them to leave Canada to return to the USA?

Which they have just left, as that Canadian citizen is now standing on Canadian soil while talking to that CBSA officer?

That has happened to me at the Emerson crossing. Bunch of buffoons to say the least!
 
Exactly, and instead of abandoning the car at the border they chose to take it back.

Yes, it was the car that caused him to be denied entry but he had no opportunity to abandon the car on the Canadian side, he was told to return to the US side. When he did, he told the US that he’d leave it with them and get the paperwork done later. They said nope, take the car somewhere else as it’s not their problem.

So, the car or the guy or both got denied entry but the bottom line was he wasn’t getting into Canada that day with that car.
 
Many believe that a Canadian citizen can’t be refused entry but that’s not 100% correct as you pointed out. My friend was importing a car and wouldn’t listen to us about getting a US clearance from the border control first and he was denied entry into Canada and turned around to go back. There’s more that a few reasons for a denied entry…

The "friend" who was a Canadian citizen cannot be denied entry. He was turned around because his CAR being imported was denied entry.
If he wanted to, he could have entered Canada, but the car couldn't, so he would have had to abandon it or take it back to the USA.

Addition: I see this falsehood was addressed already...
 
The "friend" who was a Canadian citizen cannot be denied entry. He was turned around because his CAR being imported was denied entry.
If he wanted to, he could have entered Canada, but the car couldn't, so he would have had to abandon it or take it back to the USA.

Addition: I see this falsehood was addressed already...



No falsehood, just gave his version of the story but you could have seen that before you posted the “falsehood” tripe…
 
It has happened to me as well.

"It's my decision", she said. "There is no appeal." Even while I was still there, sitting on the ground (per the CBSA officer's order), I was thinking "I'm going to have to submit a complaint." So later, at home, I did.

The first response from the Minister was business-like. It told me that they'd conducted an investigation, that I'd been in violation of the law, that the officer had been correct, that the officer's conduct had been appropriate. I wrote back, with many verifiable details, asking that they re-investigate.

It took a long time, but the second letter from the Minister had a very different tone, compared to the first. It apologized. It told me that they'd re-investigated, and that it had included the video and audio recording of our interaction. It informed me that my account (of what happened) was consistent with the evidence, the officer's account was inconsistent with the evidence, that the officer had been informed of their findings, and that a memo had been generated, CBSA-wide, to educate their staff.

The next time I was through, and I recognized the officer in the booth, I was thinking "Okay... here we go.." but nothing happened. If she remembered anything, she didn't let it show.

This is extremely common unfortunately. Training is lacking in that organization. Its difficult because the agents are doing what they know. Which many times is incorrect. Inconsistencies on the agents reports are frequent. Even to the point where the supervisor will say "he was not detained" but in the same breath describe why the person was not allowed to leave (not enter into canada and not allowed to return to the USA)....for several hours.... kind of fits the "detained" definition...
 
This is extremely common unfortunately. Training is lacking in that organization. Its difficult because the agents are doing what they know. Which many times is incorrect. Inconsistencies on the agents reports are frequent. Even to the point where the supervisor will say "he was not detained" but in the same breath describe why the person was not allowed to leave (not enter into canada and not allowed to return to the USA)....for several hours.... kind of fits the "detained" definition...

Good description of them, there’s more buffoons in that organization than one realizes. My friends daughter was taking a law and order course at the local community college and got a summer job with CBSA at the Thousands Islands bridge and she was shocked at the level of stupidity she saw daily. She said there were some normal people there but they were outnumbered by the clowns. Her thoughts about a career with them came to an abrupt halt after that summer.
 
Good description of them, there’s more buffoons in that organization than one realizes. My friends daughter was taking a law and order course at the local community college and got a summer job with CBSA at the Thousands Islands bridge and she was shocked at the level of stupidity she saw daily. She said there were some normal people there but they were outnumbered by the clowns. Her thoughts about a career with them came to an abrupt halt after that summer.

Yeah....its too bad for that.... if only the organization (CBSA) would put more effort and funds into training the agents (a union).
The relationship between the organization and the union is not great.
Causing many issues that the public has to be subjected to.
 
This is extremely common unfortunately. Training is lacking in that organization. Its difficult because the agents are doing what they know. Which many times is incorrect. Inconsistencies on the agents reports are frequent. Even to the point where the supervisor will say "he was not detained" but in the same breath describe why the person was not allowed to leave (not enter into canada and not allowed to return to the USA)....for several hours.... kind of fits the "detained" definition...

Its not just agents. We were denied entry to Canada by the Port Commander, who also admitted that his agent was wrong.
 
As a Canadian citizen leaving the country and returning you need to know your rights.

Stead fast, if you’re a citizen with your feet on our soil or floating in our waters you cannot be denied.

Well I had a Port Commander say to my face that he was denying me and my friend entry into the country ... while we were standing inside the country.
 
As I said in my previous post not everyone is good at or knows their job and the laws. I would have made him arrest me and have him look like a fool.

Lol, Pretty easy for you to say that considering you weren’t even there but to suggest someone should ask to be arrested to make the agent look bad is more than a bit ridiculous. f:P:2: Good story though…
 
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art6.html

This is in our charter of rights and freedoms.

Just because some border guard and/or his supervisor tells you something doesn’t make it right or legal. Many people aren’t very good at their job or know it well.

When a citizen has his or her feet on our soil you cannot be simply told to leave and you cannot be denied repatriation. You may be detained and not free, under our laws, but you simply can’t be told to leave.

law 101 for any peace officer where of course cbsa officers should be trained the right way but seems not.
 
As mentioned here previously, status Indians, citizens and permanent residents have right of entry. CBSA cannot deny you entry but can detain or arrest if reasons exist (outstanding warrants, you have been caught smuggling, committing a crim code offense, etc). CBSA can deny entry to your goods though. If you chose to return to the US with said goods, that's on you, you are not being denied entry.
 
Interesting discussion. Many years ago we were harassed by the CBS. Or clowns as they are referred to in my family because of their utter stupidity.

Many years ago we were crossing back into Canada. One of us (one of the kids i believe) had a long form birth certificate. Agent asked what's this?, my wife said Long form birth certificate. The retard started arguing that it wasn't and he didn't know what it was. He was going on and on. My wife interrupted him mid sentence and said, let me know when you figure it out and rolled up her car window. A few minutes pass, a supervisor comes out, there is a short 30 second discussion, supervisor steps up to my wife's window which she rolled down. She then asks if he educated the retard, he chuckles, apologizes and says have a nice day, you can go.
So, no, they sometimes don't know what they are talking about and you need to stand your ground.
 
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