Legalities vs. Ethics

I suppose this is why you never come to haggisfest, eh foxie?
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Well it does make it challenging - a lot of insurance policies these days specifically have a 'no gatehouse' clause. Word gets around :)
 
Good thread.

I can see there are a bunch of folks here I would like to hunt with.

Our ethics will be as varied as our personalities, and as we find people we "groove" with for our buddies, so we will find hunters to hunt with. Interesting that they are not always the same people.

Just a thought.

2 years running now - no deer. Take it for what it's worth...LMAO

Anyone in NS want to take me hunting? Lawl.:D

;)
 
In order to obtain a balance between ease and ethics I only road hunt but I do it with my eyes closed.

Much like the drivers in Vancouver do.

Of course there will be those who insist that it is only ethical to hunt like this at night, but I'm often busy golfing with my blind friends then.

KTK
 
why not discuss real issues with laws and ethics , road hunting is just that and works so does hiking around or climbing mountains or floating rivers and lakes , who cares who does what

but take a law like the one in BC were it is LEGAL to hunt grouse with any centerfire cartridge ??????? chickens with 338s????? yup its legal, and yes sadly I have seen guys wacking birds with 30-06s and 300s because they can, what about the guy driving down the road towards them as they let all hell break loose ???? were does that 180 grain slug go after blowing the chickin into popcorn size peices??? but its LEGAL ....now is it ETHICAL?
 
bone-collector said:
why not discuss real issues with laws and ethics , road hunting is just that and works so does hiking around or climbing mountains or floating rivers and lakes , who cares who does what

but take a law like the one in BC were it is LEGAL to hunt grouse with any centerfire cartridge ??????? chickens with 338s????? yup its legal, and yes sadly I have seen guys wacking birds with 30-06s and 300s because they can, what about the guy driving down the road towards them as they let all hell break loose ???? were does that 180 grain slug go after blowing the chickin into popcorn size peices??? but its LEGAL ....now is it ETHICAL?
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Yeah, it's legal and ehticall, IMHO. Just as ethical as sluicing them wiht a shogun or a.22

I've shot grouse with all kinds of centerfire rifles, form .270 up to 300WM. And just like anything else, it can be done safely or dangerously.

And if you know what you are doing, you have a nicely decapitated grouse or 3 for dinner. If you don't know what you are doing, you end up wiht feathers and pulp. Just like when you sluice a grouse at close range with a 12 guage, and most of the pellets hit the body- not much to eat, and real mess!!;)
 
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Ok, how bout this, I think it is ok to shoot fawns. In Alberta you can get 2 antlerless whitetail tags. Out of those 2 tags sometimes I use one on a fawn. Fawn back strap = the best meat you will ever eat.

Some people are offended by this, they don't like good meat I guess.
 
Well that's pretty cut and dry ROA - the ministry biologists wouldn't give you tags for it if it weren't in the best interests of animal management as far as they can determine. So that must not only be ethical, but necessary for conservation. Here they hand out doe tags and even cow moose tags where populations require it, and there's a calf season in one region as well. There's lots of conservation reasons why harvesting those animals is actually a good thing.
 
Legalities aside....Ethics is a purely personnal thing.
Let your conscience be your guide & Do only what YOU can live with ;)

but take a law like the one in BC were it is LEGAL to hunt grouse with any centerfire cartridge
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It's also Legal here to Hunt Grizzly with a 17 remington.......:confused:
Ethical ????? Who knows........but it sure ain't Smart;) :dancingbanana:
 
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Foxer said:
Well that's pretty cut and dry ROA - the ministry biologists wouldn't give you tags for it if it weren't in the best interests of animal management as far as they can determine. So that must not only be ethical, but necessary for conservation. Here they hand out doe tags and even cow moose tags where populations require it, and there's a calf season in one region as well. There's lots of conservation reasons why harvesting those animals is actually a good thing.
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Some people think shooting a fawn is un-ethical and cruel.
 
I would never shoot a calf, there's hardly a reason to shoot them. They have little meat on them and nothing worth keeping in the trophy department. I use what I kill.

-Rohann
 
I would never shoot a calf, there's hardly a reason to shoot them. They have little meat on them and nothing worth keeping in the trophy department.
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?????

Ummm - there's a good deal more meat on a calf moose come fall than there is on a deer - are you against shooting deer as well, due to 'lack of meat'?
 
BCWILL said:
Legalities aside....Ethics is a purely personnal thing.
Let your conscience be your guide & Do only what YOU can live with ;)
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I have read the entire thread. Boys and girls, here is the the post that, I believe, hits the nail one the head.

There is no list written down somewhere as to what is ethical or not.

1. a. A set of principles of right conduct.
b. A theory or a system of moral values: "An ethic of service is at war with a craving for gain" Gregg Easterbrook.

2. ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy.
3. ethics (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The rules or standards governing the conduct of a person or the members of a profession: medical ethics.
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Any discussion about ethics on this board is bound to end up in heated discussion. Why? Ethics are a personal set of choices we each make and live with. The chance of any two people having the exact same ethics are remote.

In the end, YOU do what YOU feel is right.

cdngunner said:
Cant shoot a swimming moose for instance.
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Anyone know if this is a provincial reg or federal(Canada wide)?

Just curious.......
 
Anyone know if this is a provincial reg or federal(Canada wide)?
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I believe the only federal reg is the waterfowl one. However, most provinces seek to harmonize their rules to a degree. I don't know of a province that doesn't have that reg. (tho i don't know 'em all)
 
Shooting swimming game is provincial.

IN BC, you cannot shoot at previously unwounded game while swimming.

SO, if you hit it, and it went to water BLAST AWAY, but if you just saw it and it is swimming, then you cannot shoot.
 
Rohann said:
I would never shoot a calf, there's hardly a reason to shoot them. They have little meat on them and nothing worth keeping in the trophy department. I use what I kill.

-Rohann
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i would rather eat a calf then a big ole bull any day....
 
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