Lengthening LOP

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I have a model 70 that I received from my grandfather. it is chambered in 300 WM and it kicks the crap out of my shoulder. It has a recoil pad on it but it is kind of useless

I think the biggest problem is that the length of pull is really short for me. It is only 13". I have fairly long arms so I feel myself bunching my arm in too much when holding it up, this also causes the scope to come closer to my face than I would like. Is it common and easily feasible to extend the length of pull on the stock? I am thinking of some sort of hard plastic insert to put between the stock and recoil pad. Have any of you done this? I have not determined the exact LOP I want but it may be 1/2-1" extra, will it be possible to keep the shape of the stock and such with an insert this big? Let me know if anyone has experience doing this.

I like the calibre but before I trade for a different gun I would like to know my options with this one. If I put a limbsaver on it the LOP will not change as the recoil pad I have now is about 1 inch thick already
 
You can buy black plastic oversized 1/4" spacers usually in a set of about 5. I recommend gluing them together with epoxy to the length you want by making a simple jig to allign the holes in them and clamping them. Attach them to the stock after the epoxy cures and grind to proper contours and angles. Then fit a new recoil pad which will be necessary to get the correct toe angle.

When I do this I use a separate set of screws to hold the spacers on the stock so you have to drill new holes with countersinks in the spacers about a 1/2" inside of the holes that the recoil pad will screw through. It's easier than trying to keep the separate pieces lined up. You will need to replace the recoil pad screws with the same type and size but enough longer to compensate for the thickness of the spacers. If you fine sand the spacers and give them a coat of urethane varnish they will look quite decent and the glue line will be hard to see.
 
Stocker has real good way of lengthening pull, I do a similair process except I epoxy the recoil pad to the spacers as well and grind the whole works at once as there is no way to misaline anything this way,and I use long philips head screws from the hardware store that go in deeper into the stock to secure it strongly, but his way is just as well, the spacers from Pachymeyer are all one side(large) and usually the hole spacing is wrong for your pad so you end up drilling at the least 1 new hole. I ran into this problem on brand new Remington thumb hole stocks, for some reason the LOP is really short and if you are not 5'-6" like me you really need to extend the butplate, funny how they did this on a modern gun !!! If your gun is a Pre 64 model 70 please do not alter it as it really affects the value of your rifle, your better off selling it as 300 Winchester Magnums in pre-64's are very sought after, and buy yourself a new gun and have a few bucks leftover after you even put a good scope on the new gun. I only say this as there is less and less original not screwed with model 70's available to collectors/hunters to buy in original condition. I think alot of future collectors of the guns made today are going to curse me for all the recoil pads I have installed, as I do over 100 a year and mostly Decelerator or Old English pads. If you are going to do it yourself buy either Unclemikes or Pachmyer pads as they are the easiest to grind if you are not set up to do this type of work. Dale in T-Bay, PM me if you need any advise I am more than glad to share info.
 
While obvious, no one has mentioned it so I'll do it.
Replace the stock. There are lots of very nice aftermarket stocks available for under $100.00 US. Boyd's for example offers several for $92.00 US or under. Richard's MicroFit Stocks will make LOP longer at your request.

You will not only solve your problem but will end up with a "custom" rifle at the same time.

FWIW, Kick-Eez offers a magnum pad that is 1 3/8" thick. (Kick-Eez product # 502-125-M)
 
Some of the new very soft pads that are now available are also very subject to damage by breaking away from the outer edges. I don't like these much but seems a lot of shooters want a squishy pad for their rifles. The Decelerator pad is a good compromise between supersoft and durable. In any event I don't epoxy the pads to the spacers as they may have to be replaced due to damage and in the event the rifle is passed to another shooter who wants the rifle shorter again the pad can then be refitted.
 
I'll look into the kick-eez magnum pad. The gun is not a pre-64. the serial is G132###x I believe it was made in the 70's but I can't remember. As for changing the stock I had given some thought to that idea already but I would rather not. The stock on the gun is in fairly nice condition. I am also partial to a nice walnut stock over laminate. It's cheap to buy a laminate boyd's stock, but to get a nice walnut stock with checkering costs a little more.

I measured the stock again and realized the LOP is closer to 12.5" but the recoil pad is a little thinner than I thought. I think if I order the magnum pad and 1 spacer I should be sitting nicely at a little over 13.5" which is much more comfortable for me. Thanks for al the input. If anyone has other ideas feel free to let me know
 
If you wanted to try something cheap and easy, you could always use one of those slip on recoil pads. It would increase the LOP, give you some additional cushioning. Once you determined that the LOP works you could go with something more permanent.
 
stocker said:
Some of the new very soft pads that are now available are also very subject to damage by breaking away from the outer edges. I don't like these much but seems a lot of shooters want a squishy pad for their rifles. The Decelerator pad is a good compromise between supersoft and durable. In any event I don't epoxy the pads to the spacers as they may have to be replaced due to damage and in the event the rifle is passed to another shooter who wants the rifle shorter again the pad can then be refitted.
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Stocker I concur on your assesment of the kickease pads they are just like spunge and horrible to grind! I ussually charge a little more to do one of these pads as it takes longer to accomplish and to me there too soft to be anygood from my experiance. The Decelerator varies in softness from batch to batch but is one of the best pads on the market today! We are very similiar in our thoughts on the work we perform for others, it is differrent when you see atleast 100 or more pads installed a year as you here all the good and the bad of the pads you install, and 90% of the guys/gals want a Pachymere Decelerator, with 10 % wanting a Kick Ease wich I will not install unless I have alot of time, take care Dale in T-Bay:)
 
zywina said:
there too soft to be anygood from my experiance.
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Ive never installed one but I can tell you that Im very happy with mine...My gunsmith actually suggested it to me as he he has been getting good feedback about them from others he installed.

I started out with a Factory recoil pad on a Sako AV in 338 Win mag.....basically an orange puck......I would never shoot more than 10 rounds in a single day. Installing the Kick EEZ has basically cut down recoil by half . No doubt the decellerator is a good pad but I dont' think the squishyness of the Kick EEZ is a problem and it will soak up more recoil than other models as ive had them all at one point or another .
 
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