Leta talk abouts brasing/welding shotgun bbl lugs

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Well I have a project I'm looking at doing
Moving and refixing barrel lug on 50 or so 870 shotguns.
This is somthing I have never done.
So I'm eaither going to take a stab at it or pay someone to-do it.
Who here has done this before.
 
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Braze it, more than sufficient, welding wouldn’t look right.

Good luck with your shotty project, if dlask won’t build em and people want em why not.

What constitutes a manufactured barrel?

I’ve always wondered about dlask TWO piece design, every one I’ve seen and bought has been like this, an obvious extension with the barrel pressed on. The barrel lug on the dlask doesn’t look Rem either
 

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I have done a couple many years ago... I used high heat silver solder in sheet form. Cut an under size piece that fit under what I was doing. Cleaned the metal really well, lots of flux. Clamped so it could not move anywhere... applied soap stone on the outside of the joint to prevent solder from flowing out onto the exposed barrel... used an acetylene torch. Cleaned it up after and blued. Pain in the ass job. 50 I would not want to do.
 
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Braze it, more than sufficient, welding wouldn’t look right.

Good luck with your shotty project, if dlask won’t build em and people want em why not.

What constitutes a manufactured barrel?

I’ve always wondered about dlask TWO piece design, every one I’ve seen and bought has been like this, an obvious extension with the barrel pressed on. The barrel lug on the dlask doesn’t look Rem either
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Are you saying the dlask bbls are 2pc ?
Like mosaberg?
I've own many dlask bbls I've never seen one made in 2pc unless you meen the bbl and bbl lug
 
badboybeeson said:
Are you saying the dlask bbls are 2pc ?
Like mosaberg?
I've own many dlask bbls I've never seen one made in 2pc unless you meen the bbl and bbl lug
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Looks like it to me and I’ve had 4-5 ish pass through my hands all from different eras take a close look at the ones you have.

How do you plane to shorten the mag tubes?
 
Unsure on that one bought it used but I’ve had em with that style of stamp and a couple from the last batch offered last year? and one with the dlask logo stamped in it.
Had a 16” one not 16.2” made for the USA market same thing.

You can pm me and I’ll send it to you.

Everyone I’ve had and seen has that line, some more obvious than others

I can’t see them spending money for a large blank then machining it. Pipe is cheap and extensions can be pumped out on mill.
 
I have seen one piece Remington 870 barrels as well as two piece ones, with the extension with locking recess being a separate collar. Doubt that it makes any functional or quality difference.
As far as relocating 50 or more underlugs goes, that would require a near manufacturing setup, to insure that the lugs are attached precisely and uniformly. The barrels would need to be finished after lug installation.
 
tiriaq said:
I have seen one piece Remington 870 barrels as well as two piece ones, with the extension with locking recess being a separate collar. Doubt that it makes any functional or quality difference.
As far as relocating 50 or more underlugs goes, that would require a near manufacturing setup, to insure that the lugs are attached precisely and uniformly. The barrels would need to be finished after lug installation.
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If you’re relocating lugs because you shortened the barrel is that manufacturing or modified under the law.

I’m sure dlask would of just chopped the barrel and re-blazed the lug if they legally could when they made/make their shotties
 
Manufacturing under the law? Apparently if a person with a PAL makes a single one-off personal non-restricted firearm, that is now "manufacturing" and a firearms business license with a manufacturing endorsement is required.

I would suspect that if finished 870 barrels had their lugs relocated, and overall length shortened to less than 18", any firearm with one of these barrels installed would become a prohibited firearm, because a finished barrel was cut down. Best to start from scratch.
To the best of my knowledge making/manufacturing/creating gun barrels is not an activity that requires a license.
 
That’s why I was asking. If Simon needs to re-solder on 50 barrel lugs.

(the only reason I can think of is he wants to do a run of shortty shotguns)

OP post says relocate/moving the lugs and re-affixing. Why would anyone do this unless you’re building a MCS or shorter clone. (Buyers would want the sub <12” barrel).

I can’t see a market for factory barrels =>14” on the mcs and clones all ready on the market. Idk maybe I’m just stupid.

Starting a barrel from scratch is more involved (and what I thought he’d need to do to make something for customers to legally use)
 
tiriaq said:
Manufacturing under the law? Apparently if a person with a PAL makes a single one-off personal non-restricted firearm, that is now "manufacturing" and a firearms business license with a manufacturing endorsement is required.

I would suspect that if finished 870 barrels had their lugs relocated, and overall length shortened to less than 18", any firearm with one of these barrels installed would become a prohibited firearm, because a finished barrel was cut down. Best to start from scratch.
To the best of my knowledge making/manufacturing/creating gun barrels is not an activity that requires a license.
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Just so and this thread does,not go off the railes
we have a massive project of revamping the MCS project.
As the manufacturing of new 870 short bbls is a big job .
One of the ideas is relocating the lug on factory 14 and 18 inch guns.
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Mounting lugs on 50 barrels is a project that is going to require Jigs and a setup/procedure to insure the work is done in a consistent and professional manner. I expect factory lugs are installed using an induction brazing process. The installations must be done well - detached lugs would doom the project. After brazing, cleanup and finishing will be needed. Blasting and ceracoating might be the most efficient way to obtain a uniform commercial finish.
 
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