Lets talk M&P's 9mm

I really wish people didn't spew nonsense on here. You can shoot cast lead reloads all you want through your Glock (or any pistol with polygonal rifling) as long as you clean your barrel every once in a while.




indyelviskenobi said:
Great gun and unlike a Glock, it can shoot cast reloads.

This makes it much more cost effective for me to be able to shoot it.
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(I posted most of this in one of the earlier threads) I owned a second-gen Glock 17 for fifteen years and a third-gen Glock 34 for four years, whereas I've only owned my M&P40 for about a year so I've got a lot more experience with Glocks than M&P's--here's a summary of my thoughts so far on the two designs.

In favour of the Glock:
  • Disassembly is easier on the Glock without the sear deactivation lever of the M&P, but the M&P is still pretty easy
  • Neither of my Glocks had a malfunction or broken part while I owned them. The M&P has a ways to go to achieve the same reputation.
  • No magazine safety on the Glock--I understand why it's there but for me they're an annoyance.
  • Some of the earlier M&P's had problems with magazines dropping out when firing or having extraction problems due to rough chambers--these seem to be fixed on newer ones. Glock also had problems, though, with their early models--there was a significant "upgrade" in the early 1990's affecting hundreds of thousands of pistols.

In favour of the M&P:

  • The M&P has a grip angle that points more naturally for most people. The Glock grip angle can be learned, of course, but I think most people, especially if they're used to other semi-autos, will find it easier to adapt to the M&P.
  • The shape of the grip plus the interchangeable backstraps on the M&P make it much more comfortable to shoot. I know that it's more important that a handgun shoots well than feels good but most people will find a handgun that fits their hand easier to shoot.
  • No finger-grooves. I found the finger grooves on third-gen Glocks not bad but I prefer a grip without them.
  • The sights are better on the M&P (although I found the rear dots too distracting and blacked them out). The design of the Novak sights gives a sight radius equal to the Glock 17's with a barrel that's about a quarter of an inche shorter.
  • The trigger pull on my M&P is crisper (although a bit heavier) after 150 rounds fired than the trigger pull on on my Glock 17 after 15 years.
  • I find the slide release and magazine release easier to reach on the M&P than on a standard Glock--to me they're about the same as the extended controls on the Glock 34
  • The M&P40's recoil with 180 grain Remington is less "snappy" than Glock 17 firing 147 grain Winchester. I'm not sure if this is due to the design of the M&P or due to the nature of the .40 S&W round--I've never fired another .40 pistol.
  • The trigger is more comfortable for extended shooting sessions on the M&P--the little trigger safety dealy on the Glock always bugged a little.
  • There might be a slight accuracy edge with the M&P compared with the Glock--not night and day different, though.

Smith and Wesson has finally produced a good centrefire semi-auto that I like--I owned a 5906 9mm and really didn't like it at all (actually I sold it to get my first Glock). It really looks like they looked at a Glock and made improvements in the things people don't like about them.
 
I never did like the Glock grip. I have nothing against them personally, they just don't fit my hand.
Now my M&P45 fit me like a glove the first time I picked her up. The fit, the feel, the way she points......:adult: .

Thinking of another one. Dunno if I want to go 9mm or 40. Hmmmmmm????

(E) :cool:
 
10,000 through my current M&P 9, 1500 through a previous one and a little over 1,000 through my M&P 45 (the fact that I bought an M&P 45 after the nines should say something) zero failures, zero issues, zero drama. Both my current M&P's have Apex sears etc. - well worth the money. The easiest pistol to shoot quickly and accurately that I have ever shot, I can do splits with the 45 that are identical to the 9 - both far quicker and more accurately than other pistols I've owned.
 
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