Let's talk turkey!

Superbrad said:
Just to be clear here.... I am not the "resident turkey expert".... I started this thread because I know a lot about turkey hunting and have been very successful.... I started this thread so I and others can learn more....

Turkey hunting is not as popular here as it should be and my hope is that from all of us discussing what makes us successful and posting stories and pics we grow popularity in the sport and help promote growth of the species....
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Your kiddin me right !:D

Brad how long have you turkey hunted for ?
 
Adrian J Hare said:
The 20 gauge is a up coming turkey gun that I have changed so many turkey hunters from using a 12 gauge and shouldering a 20 instead. Its funny how infomation gets past around and used without any true work with these such guns.

The 20 gauge is every bit as good as a 12 gauge and back years ago I proved that and am still doing it to this day. If you want a 20 to shoot then you have to spend money in a Custom choke like Pure Gold chokes and you have to shoot Hevi shot like the Hevi 13 turkey loads. These are not cheap but then again your using only two shells unless you travel like I do.

I have spent hours and hours at my range testing shells and chokes and have narrowed it all down to what direction one needs to go to turn their gun into a true turkey gun. There is NOT a Copper/lead load that will compete with Hevi 13. Finding the right choke is important but then again I have tested so may 12 gauge guns and have not seen many combos beat the Hevi shot train.

If you want your gun to shoot dence patterns at a max range you need to spend hours Polishing your barrel to get the forcing cone glass finished, because the forcing cone is important to a dence and even pattern.

I turned my Benelli Nova 20 gauge into a 50 yard gun and just finished another persons 20 ga into the samething with a lot of elbow work.

If you want these dence patterns you need to stick with #6 shot that in a Hevi load are really #5 size. They pattern the best out of both the 20 ga and 12 ga. I have taken birds a couple times out at ther 50 yard mark, and NOTE: I do not promote these shots I promote to get your gun so that you have no doubt that your shot is going to preform when you decide to squeeze that trigger...
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What do you consider a 50 yard gun? One that puts 5 pellets in the bone at that distance? Winchester makes a good "high-end" turkey load, the supreme elite X-tended Range. It turned my cheap 30 yard set-up into a 50 yarder.

Quite frankly while I agree making and using a 50 yard turkey gun are interesting for 99% of hunters out there they shouldn't be poking past 20 with a scattergun. The 2 box a year bird hunter has to rediscover his gun every turkey season and it may be years between patterning sessions if they happen at all.

For the fellow asking about practice pattern your gun for your wife then have her practice with target loads shooting at pop cans at turkey type distance. Load a turkey load when you go hunting, she will never know the difference.
 
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Adrian J Hare said:
Your kiddin me right !:D

Brad how long have you turkey hunted for ?
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Adrian, I agree with SB. For the amount of turkeys that are in our area, there are not enough hunters getting into it. Trust me, I know.

What I think SB is saying is, know your firearm and hunt within it unless it doesn't perform to your specs/ expectations. It doesn't take a genious to pattern a shotgun.

Everyone seems to think that you need these 3.5" shoulder masher guns to drop a turkey. Fact is, you don't. I have been using a Krylon camo'd 2.75" Mossberg 195 (bolt action, mag fed w/c-lect choke) for 10 years of turkey hunting. I've dropped birds from 20 feet to 42 yards using 2.75" Remington #5 Nitro Turkey. I've never had a bird complain.

YMMV

-Jason

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Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
Quite frankly while I agree making and using a 50 yard turkey gun are interesting for 99% of hunters out there they shouldn't be poking past 20 with a scattergun. The 2 box a year bird hunter has to rediscover his gun every turkey season and it may be years between patterning sessions if they happen at all.

For the fellow asking about practice pattern your gun for your wife then have her practice with target loads shooting at pop cans at turkey type distance. Load a turkey load when you go hunting, she will never know the difference.
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You're not married yet, are you? LOL! Give me a shout next time you're in town. Haven't seen you since we took out bluemike870 bunny hunting. -J
 
thebuckhunter said:
Adrian, I agree with SB. For the amount of turkeys that are in our area, there are not enough hunters getting into it. Trust me, I know.

What I think SB is saying is, know your firearm and hunt within it unless it doesn't perform to your specs/ expectations. It doesn't take a genious to pattern a shotgun.

Everyone seems to think that you need these 3.5" shoulder masher guns to drop a turkey. Fact is, you don't. I have been using a Krylon camo'd 2.75" Mossberg 195 (bolt action, mag fed w/c-lect choke) for 10 years of turkey hunting. I've dropped birds from 20 feet to 42 yards using 2.75" Remington #5 Nitro Turkey. I've never had a bird complain.

YMMV

-Jason

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You're not married yet, are you? LOL! Give me a shout next time you're in town. Haven't seen you since we took out bluemike870 bunny hunting. -J
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OH GAWD NO! I am actually in Cornwall three or four days a week. How do your Wednesdays look? Pm me?
 
I started last year, and have bagged two birds to date. I use a 12 G Benelli - with a camo pattern - with a full choke, and 3" Winchester Supreme # 4 shot. Its deadly to at least 30 yards. While some guys think they are "stupid," turkeys are smart, wiley, critters. Being out in the springtime is great and I think its just as enjoyable as deer hunting. That, and you get a pile of great tastng meat.

For guys who want to hunt turkeys, from Ottawa to the 401, the place is crawling with em...!
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
What do you consider a 50 yard gun? One that puts 5 pellets in the bone at that distance? Winchester makes a good "high-end" turkey load, the supreme elite X-tended Range. It turned my cheap 30 yard set-up into a 50 yarder.

Quite frankly while I agree making and using a 50 yard turkey gun are interesting for 99% of hunters out there they shouldn't be poking past 20 with a scattergun. The 2 box a year bird hunter has to rediscover his gun every turkey season and it may be years between patterning sessions if they happen at all.

For the fellow asking about practice pattern your gun for your wife then have her practice with target loads shooting at pop cans at turkey type distance. Load a turkey load when you go hunting, she will never know the difference.
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I believe you missed my whole point. As soon as someone brings up the terms "50 yards" the arm chair guys jump right one it. Now please go back and re-read the thread S L O W

Its threads like this now that shut me down as I try to help when I can and when the people do not want to understand what I am getting at and want to sway the conversation into a directs that its not intended then I quit, simple.

I'm sorry guys if I tried to forward you some information that could very well help at some point while you maybe in the woods.

If anyone one of you are at the Tornoto Sportsman Show and would like to chat or take on the Advanced Turkey Seminars I do , because I am always asked please fee free to stop me and ask away. Maybe I can explain much better talking one on one...
 
CROWCA said:
Brad how long have you hunted turkey and how many have you taken?
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I hunted two years in New York state on guided hunts where I took two birds back in the 90's and here in Ontario I have been hunting them for 5 years and have harvested 10 birds....

Adrian J Hare said:
Your kiddin me right !:D

Brad how long have you turkey hunted for ?
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Adrian, I kid you not.....lol....

Let's put the word "popularity" into perspective here.... opening day of whitetail season around here I counted a minimum of 12 shots... I drove to the local diner for breakfast at 11 am.... past several cars and trucks pulled over at the side of the road and when I got to the diner it was packed full of camo and blaze orange....

Opening day of goose season here you her blasting all morning long and the diner is filled with the same characters.... you can't drive down the highway before sunrise without seeing at least a dozen duck boats on thei rway to the river....

We have a HUGE turkey population around here and opening day I heard zero shots.... on my way to the diner I saw one truck at the side of the road... I talk to the guys I work with that hunt and are feverish and excited come deer season... I would say roughly 1 in 4 hunt turkey also and most not seriously.... majority of them can't be bothered taking the course....

The turkey population around here has gotten to the point where some consider them a nuicance!
 
Thanks.I was involved in a white tail discussion,and a late post from the guy said he had not taken an animal as of yet but was giving information like he was the great white hunter.
 
CROWCA said:
Thanks.I was involved in a white tail discussion,and a late post from the guy said he had not taken an animal as of yet but was giving information like he was the great white hunter.
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NP CROW.... Like I said, even from post 1, I am no expert... I just wanted to start with the basics and see what others had to say.... get some chatter going....
 
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