Leupold 20-60 Mark 4 Tactical Spotting scope VS Vortex Razor HD 20-60 ??
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+1 for Cameraland. Doug is awesome!
A short review of the Pentax is up on my blog : http://rifletalk.org/2015/05/19/review-of-pentax-80ed-spotting-scope/
calvados.boulard
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Nice review. May I ask what tripod it is that the spotter is attached to? Where did you get it and how much?
Thanks again Tomochan,
Cal.
calvados.boulard
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That my friend is a Ray Vin from Creedmoor in the US
Thanks Tomochan. As an aside, what a great blog you have. I've already chewed through a few of your articles and have queued up a bunch more. Great writing, and solid no nonsense advice. I have a lot to learn from you. Thanks for putting it out there.
Thanks,
Cal.
Good review Bob thanks for posting that. In your review you mention being able to see bullet holes at 300, if conditions are good can you see them further out than that? say 400 or perhaps even 500? In the white.
The spotting scope I currently have is an old school made in Japan fixed 25X Redfield and it will easily show me .308 holes in the white at 300 even on a hot day (but thats it, 350-400 is a no go). Can it get better than that with the really expensive spotters like a Kowa 883 or Zeiss Spotter 60 or would I be a fool to give away my old Redfield only to gain very little after spending a huge amount of money?
sillymike
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+1 on giving Doug a call!
Mystic Precision
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J996, simple answer... maybe. In F class you spend alot of time looking at targets when scoring and eventually, you look through a bunch of spotters. In the heat, seeing bullet holes in the white becomes unreliable regardless of what you peer through. And we certainly can enjoy the most expensive spotters from time to time.
My SIII10-50 scope on my competition rifles has let me see 30cal bullet holes in the white at 600m... on a cool overcast day.. so a top tier spotter could do the same BUT the air quality will make it very frustrating as that hole goes into and out of focus with any type of mirage.
Put it anywhere near another object and resolving both becomes a chore ie trying to score a bullet hole near a scoring ring.
If there is a need to see the bullet holes on a target at LR, set up for wireless camera. This works regardless of air quality and makes scoring yourself a breeze.
Costs a heck of a lot less too.
I use my spotter to see the air.... not the target.
Jerry
My SIII10-50 scope on my competition rifles has let me see 30cal bullet holes in the white at 600m... on a cool overcast day.. so a top tier spotter could do the same BUT the air quality will make it very frustrating as that hole goes into and out of focus with any type of mirage.
Put it anywhere near another object and resolving both becomes a chore ie trying to score a bullet hole near a scoring ring.
If there is a need to see the bullet holes on a target at LR, set up for wireless camera. This works regardless of air quality and makes scoring yourself a breeze.
Costs a heck of a lot less too.
I use my spotter to see the air.... not the target.
Jerry
Interesting and highly informative. Thanks for the review.
