Leupold HAMR

greentips said:
I personally like the ACOG + Dr Optic very much. Superfast acquistion with the Dr. Optic at close range and very well situation awareness.
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They are both great optics in their own right but changing cheek weld etc is frustrating. One more variable that I can't be bothered with. Simply put the concept had small scale appeal, if it was something shooters were finding productive I think you'd see a lot more people using it.

I think the concept has merit on a rifle equipped with a high magnification scope but with a low power setup I think the value is lost. Theres a lot of 1-4 options out there for less money.
 
Rauch Tactical said:
Reminds me of an ACOG. Thing is people have pretty well moved on from the ACOG/MRD mix. Now make an affordable, dependable and functional Spector DR and I'll be interested. To be honest the TR24G is way more affordable and probably a better all round setup.
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Definitely.

I find my TR24 abit more clear and forgiving eye relief over my Leupold Mark 4 1-4.

The Leupy CQ/T was a good idea on paper, but was big, heavy, and the battery did not last at all.

x2 on the affordable/dependable/functional DR.
 
Cyanide Ride said:
The Leupy CQ/T was a good idea on paper, but was big, heavy, and the battery did not last at all.
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And the reticle washed out on a full-bright day, which is why mine went. Having the built-in black reticle did not help: the illumination had to be manually turned off to see it when washed out. Let's see if Leupold has learned the right lessons on the HAMR.
 
Are the battery systems for the "scope" and reflex sight independent or do they run off the same power source? I know it has an etched reticle but in the absence of irons I'd want independent power sources for both systems.
 
Obviously the market is looking for another sight other than ACOG - the biggest down side of ACOG is that the illumination cannot be adjusted. It is very awkward at dawn, or in the city at night. During day light, the recticle is over illuminated for distance shooting. Also, it is not designed to work with NV

with the new Hensoldt sight for G36(with the new reflex ontop), the Elcan Spectre FIST sight....everyone is going for the basic blue print - fixed 4X sight + whatever secondary close up + battery powered recticle with adjustable illumination and NV setting. The older Elcan Spectre 3.0 does not come out from the vaccum, someone must be asking for it.

The Leupold is just following the big trend with a US solution. Note that they paid some attention to the design - the reflex sight is moved forwards so it won't hit the helmet. I would like to see if Trijicon will come up with a Dual powered ACOG to deal with the competition ( CR123 battery compartment on the left side of sight housing to power illumination)

This year SHOT will be interesting.
 
Maybe but I honestly think the concept is flawed. People are looking for a functional Pitbull/Spector DR. Plus where do you put your BUIS? Just because some European countries are buying their own ####e solutions doesn't a trend make.

First company to make a more affordable, smaller, lighter ShortDot will win.
 
greentips said:
Obviously the market is looking for another sight other than ACOG - the biggest down side of ACOG is that the illumination cannot be adjusted. It is very awkward at dawn, or in the city at night. During day light, the recticle is over illuminated for distance shooting. Also, it is not designed to work with NV
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I tend to agree with this statement for all ACOG's but 1 version witch is not ment for Civilian use Model # :TA01NSN
greentips said:
This year SHOT will be interesting.
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:agree:
Trijicon TANS: Tactical Advanced NightVision System (Gen 3: Autogated Pinnacle)
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ATWS: Trijicon Advanced Thermal Weapon Sight
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I have never been impressed with ACOGS, lousy glass, field of view and eye relief. I also find the reticle busy with the BDC or I am playing with a piece of tape (on a thousand dollar optic) trying to get the chevron illumination where it works for me.

Also if you spend enough time with real world users you will also find that they are not as durable as the internet hype would lead you to believe.
 
Rauch Tactical said:
Maybe but I honestly think the concept is flawed. People are looking for a functional Pitbull/Spector DR. Plus where do you put your BUIS? Just because some European countries are buying their own s**te solutions doesn't a trend make.

First company to make a more affordable, smaller, lighter ShortDot will win.
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Vortex is coming out with a model called the Viper PST which comes in MOA or MRAD.
Viper PST 1-4x24 Riflescope

The Viper PST (Precision Shooting Tactical) riflescope boasts features associated with top-tier riflescopes, yet comes in at a street price under the $1,000 mark. Matching reticle and turret measurements allow accurate, fast dialing of shots. The one-piece 30mm tube, precision-machined from a single solid block of aircraft-grade 6061-T6 aluminum, offers ample windage and elevation adjustment. Born from an intimate understanding of riflescope design, forward-thinking engineering, and open ears to a market incredibly vocal about what it wants in a riflescope, the Viper PST series delivers the performance and features tactical shooters demand at an economical price.
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I'm a big fan of Leupold optics, but their attempts at tactical red dot type sights have yet to impress me. The new HAMR looks a little too fragile for its intended purpose.

My next purchase is probably going to be a new IOR Valdada Pitbull 1:4X32mm QR-TS with illuminated reticle. Offers high quality, fully muti-coated, German Schott glass and built like a tank, yet doesn't take up anywhere near the real estate a full size ACOG does, while half the price of a S&B Short -Dot.
 
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