Leupold VS Bushnell VS Zeiss

Bushnell elites are truly a class above the bargain stuff. They should have changed the name to separate the low end from the high end. It's the same way with Super Sniper scopes, which are owned by tasco. For a while, the best bang for the buck out there but I couldn't get past the tasco/stupid name thing.

One thing about Leupold. From high end to the lowest model, they all handle the recoil. The 6.5 ounce fxii on my 45-70 is equivalent glass to a vxi, and handles the recoil of 3600 ft/lb muzzle energy loads.
 
I am a fan of leupold... But I also have a bushnell elite 3200. I've had it on the rifle I have used for hunting for 5-6 years, and I can't say anything bad about it.
 
hutchster said:
Regarding that nikkor video, it would be nice to be able to look through that lens after each test and not just at 1:1 ratio like a window but at high magnification like a scope, I wonder if it would be scratchy or smeared at all or still crystal clear ?
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I've seen the "making of" of that video and its crystal clear, but please be aware there is zero hunting scopes with fluorine coat on them due to the price it would add to the item. That is reserved for high end camera lenses. However, water will still bead and fall off properly coated glass.
 
DMS1 said:
Bushnell elites are truly a class above the bargain stuff. They should have changed the name to separate the low end from the high end. It's the same way with Super Sniper scopes, which are owned by tasco. For a while, the best bang for the buck out there but I couldn't get past the tasco/stupid name thing.

One thing about Leupold. From high end to the lowest model, they all handle the recoil. The 6.5 ounce fxii on my 45-70 is equivalent glass to a vxi, and handles the recoil of 3600 ft/lb muzzle energy loads.
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Just look at the list here... It's NF, S&B, Vortex and Bushnell Elite...

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/10/18/best-tactical-scopes-and-reticles/

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DMS1 said:
Bushnell elites are truly a class above the bargain stuff. They should have changed the name to separate the low end from the high end. It's the same way with Super Sniper scopes, which are owned by tasco. For a while, the best bang for the buck out there but I couldn't get past the tasco/stupid name thing.

One thing about Leupold. From high end to the lowest model, they all handle the recoil. The 6.5 ounce fxii on my 45-70 is equivalent glass to a vxi, and handles the recoil of 3600 ft/lb muzzle energy loads.
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They never should have *changed* the name. Used to be Bausch and Lomb Elite until stupid Bushnell bought them.

Whatever bushnell was or wasn't, they are now a bunch of MBA corporate raider a$$hats like the Freedom Group running around buying good companies and ruining them. Bushnell couldn't even make money from the Ray-Ban brand, for heaven's sake.

Also, the elite 3### scopes are crap.
 
Here's something for all you all to ponder.
When talking to Phil at Trace on a couple repairs he was doing for me,
I asked how the Bushnell Elites compared to the Leupold and how or
where did they cross over.
I enjoy my 4200 and he mentioned the 4200 was better than the VXII's.
I forget the exact words, maybe sturdier, stronger, better glass.
Next time to the range, both these scopes on shooters are going to come
with me for a run.

Something about how a Leupold dresses up a rifle is hard to beat.
Conquest seems to have that same look.
A proper tie fitted to a tux, I suspose.
A class all by itself.
 
kamlooky said:
Here's something for all you all to ponder.
When talking to Phil at Trace on a couple repairs he was doing for me,
I asked how the Bushnell Elites compared to the Leupold and how or
where did they cross over.
I enjoy my 4200 and he mentioned the 4200 was better than the VXII's.
I forget the exact words, maybe sturdier, stronger, better glass.
Next time to the range, both these scopes on shooters are going to come
with me for a run.

Something about how a Leupold dresses up a rifle is hard to beat.
Conquest seems to have that same look.
A proper tie fitted to a tux, I suspose.
A class all by itself.
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Somehow all this "eloquence" just doesn't seem like you Looky.
 
DMS1 said:
Like Kamlooky said: Clarity. It's not a huge difference, but the contrast is better, or colors are truer and the image just "POPS", but the slight edge in low light is trumped by the firedot. If you can't see your crosshairs against a dark background, you are hosed.
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You had to go and say that...... now my regular vx3s seem inadequate, going to have to swap them out for these fancy firedot ones!!
 
wilbar said:
Those ratings from Precision Rifle Blog aren't quality ratings, they are popularity rankings among the winners in a single discipline shooting competition.
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why? because there is no Sightron .... always a good thing to see how popular some models are for that discipline:
...''...I recently surveyed the top 100 shooters in the Precision Rifle Series (PRS), and this post reviews the scopes and reticles those guys were running in 2015. The PRS tracks how top competitors place in major rifle matches across the country. These are the major leagues of sniper-style competitions, with targets typically from 300 to 1200 yards. For more info on the Precision Rifle Series ...''...

that can give us a good idea dont you think?
 
medvedqc said:
why? because there is no Sightron .... always a good thing to see how popular some models are for that discipline:
...''...I recently surveyed the top 100 shooters in the Precision Rifle Series (PRS), and this post reviews the scopes and reticles those guys were running in 2015. The PRS tracks how top competitors place in major rifle matches across the country. These are the major leagues of sniper-style competitions, with targets typically from 300 to 1200 yards. For more info on the Precision Rifle Series ...''...

that can give us a good idea dont you think?
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Talking about scopes is like talking about cameras and lenses. It's all about brand snobbery and fanboyisms. When presented with facts people just stick their fingers up their ears and go lalalalalalalala
 
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medvedqc said:
why? because there is no Sightron .... always a good thing to see how popular some models are for that discipline:
...''...I recently surveyed the top 100 shooters in the Precision Rifle Series (PRS), and this post reviews the scopes and reticles those guys were running in 2015. The PRS tracks how top competitors place in major rifle matches across the country. These are the major leagues of sniper-style competitions, with targets typically from 300 to 1200 yards. For more info on the Precision Rifle Series ...''...

that can give us a good idea dont you think?
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Sorry, I should've quoted Kelly in that since I was responding to his post about how he wouldn't rate them 1-5 like that. I do feel there are circumstances to consider the first being "are you looking for a scope to compete in the prevision rifle series?"

While the honeymoon with.my Burris ballistic plex is over I haven't replaced them yet since I use them for hunting and my scope has never cost me an animal to date. Rather I had some cash a couple years ago and used it for a new spotter since there was a hunt where I would've gone home empty handed if my buddy wasn't sitting next to me with a better one. I ended up owing him dinner when he showed me the doe I was looking at through.my old hand me down spotter was a legal buck. We made the stalk and it turned out there was another buck with the first and we got a double header.
 
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