Last year I needed a scope for my .338 ultra mag. The scope needed to handle the stupid recoil and it had to be bright in low light. I went with a 3.5-10X44 Zeiss and have been more than impressed. It holds perfect zero no matter what magnification, it is brighter than anything I have seen and gives me a perfect picture right to the edges of the lenses. I will not buy any other kind of scope now. I am saving for one for my .30-06, and then my .243's ... Go with the Conquest. You will not be sorry.
Leupold vs Zeiss vs Bushnell
- Thread starter Joe Sixpack
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A Zeiss Conquest does not belong near a Swarovski, maybe a higher end Diavari, they're a good scope but not that good
The statement that I was responding to was as I quoted below.
I don't see the word Conquest in that statement.
What I do see is a generalization that I don't agree with after owning four Zeiss scopes(one conquest,three Diavari),and seven Swarovski scopes(six AVs,one older 30mm model). The Diavaris are in my opinion just as good optically as my Swarovskis were,possibly even better.The Conquest is very close optically to the AVs,but it is heavier,bulkier,and more cheaply finished.
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Interesting thread on other folks experiences...
The last couple of scopes I've bought were not Leupold and I've had Leupolds for a little over 30 years on my rifles. For my eyes - they are just not as clear and bright as some of the other scopes in the same price range nowadays.
The Bushnell 4200 series and the Zeiss Conquest series seem to have better optics. No argument on the Leupold service, I sent a 30+ year old 4x M8 in because it would not hold zero anymore - 3 weeks I had it back working fine.
I wonder if some folks mix up the Bushnell Elite series with the rest of the Bushnell lines, as I recall the Elite series is the old Baush and Lomb line under the Bushnell name now. I recently put a 1.25-4x Elite 4200 on a 416 Rigby and have several hundred rounds down the tube - no issues. The low light capability and the eye relief of this scope are very good too - seems like a pretty good scope.
I currently do not own a Zeiss but I think I soon will, that or a Trijicon, as a recent aquisition needs an upgrade... Kind of like the look of that new Rapid Z reticle. Some of the folks I hunt with have them on everything from 270's to 338 ultra mags and they all seem pretty happy.
I personally do not see an issue if a scope is a few ounces heavier - my primary criteria are the glass quality and the overall robustness of the scope.
As far as the original poster, while I'm not personally familiar with the 6500 series if it is as good as the 4200's you should be pretty darn happy.
The last couple of scopes I've bought were not Leupold and I've had Leupolds for a little over 30 years on my rifles. For my eyes - they are just not as clear and bright as some of the other scopes in the same price range nowadays.
The Bushnell 4200 series and the Zeiss Conquest series seem to have better optics. No argument on the Leupold service, I sent a 30+ year old 4x M8 in because it would not hold zero anymore - 3 weeks I had it back working fine.
I wonder if some folks mix up the Bushnell Elite series with the rest of the Bushnell lines, as I recall the Elite series is the old Baush and Lomb line under the Bushnell name now. I recently put a 1.25-4x Elite 4200 on a 416 Rigby and have several hundred rounds down the tube - no issues. The low light capability and the eye relief of this scope are very good too - seems like a pretty good scope.
I currently do not own a Zeiss but I think I soon will, that or a Trijicon, as a recent aquisition needs an upgrade... Kind of like the look of that new Rapid Z reticle. Some of the folks I hunt with have them on everything from 270's to 338 ultra mags and they all seem pretty happy.
I personally do not see an issue if a scope is a few ounces heavier - my primary criteria are the glass quality and the overall robustness of the scope.
As far as the original poster, while I'm not personally familiar with the 6500 series if it is as good as the 4200's you should be pretty darn happy.
Thanks for the replies guys...so yeah, I picked up the new Ruger #1 in .300 Win Mag with a 6500 2.5-16. Seems to gather light quite well, just by looking outside at dusk, haven't shot it yet. Comparing it to the old man's 25 year old fixed 4x S&B, it gathers light better actually and the optics are vey good. Too early to say much more than that, but I'm happy with the choice so far.
Really...In my eyes my Swarovskis are far better maybe I just have better vision and am younger??? I dunno
