Leupold VX3 versus Bushnell 4200

I think a lot of people buy a wall mart Bushnell and expect it to perform like 4200, then get bent out of shape when their $75 scope acts like a $75 scope.
The 3200, 4200 and 6500 are good scopes and are not typically the ones you hear about when there are troubles.
Then there are percentages, I wonder how many thousands of Bushnells are sold to 1 Leupold? Odds are there will be more reported problems.
 
I got bent out of shape when the 3200 and 4200s (and 3000-4000 before that) acted like $75 scopes with better glass. Nothing distorts past the elastic limit like paying 300-500 bucks for a $75 scope.:p
 
Dogleg said:
I got bent out of shape when the 3200 and 4200s (and 3000-4000 before that) acted like $75 scopes with better glass. Nothing distorts past the elastic limit like paying 300-500 bucks for a $75 scope.:p
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If you bought one and didn't like it, the omice is on you for the second one, especially if you are talking 3000 and 4000's..
Hell, I wasn't even born then...:)
Different era, different product.
 
Its Apples to Oranges really best Bang for the buck goes to the Bushnell hands down. I own both and if the leupold was $320 then my vote would be for it looking through both scopes I could not justify the extra $260....I got my VX3 attached to a rifle I traded for other wise there would be a Bushnell in its place. Now I bought a VX-L 3.5-10x56mm used for slightly more then that VX3 goes for new and I must say its a sweet piece of kit can't wat to get my CDS dials made for my .264win mag my 6500 2.5-30x50mm doesn't even compare to the sight picture, field of view, clarity and contrast of the VX-L.

Leupold VX3 (2.5-8X36) $579.95
or
Bushnell 4200 (3-90X40) $319.95

Take the $260 in savings and buy ammo to practice with or even better get your self into reloading.....
 
canadaman30 said:
Bushnell 4200 you will not beat or even compare for the money. Lifetime warranty as well Rainguard. Recoil tested to equivalent of 10,000 rds of 375HH before it leaves factory. All the Leupold fans brag about warrenty. What good is your warrenty when your scope fails during a hunt. Why pay more???
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If things change down the road and you need to sell scopes I would sooner be selling the Leupold, they just bring more money used !!!
Found this on Cabela's site to compare scopes to me your splitting hairs but I do like the better eye relief on Leupold

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http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...lescopes&filterName=current&_requestid=101638


Item Description Price Power Finish Reticle Tube Diameter Objective Diameter(mm) Eye Relief(in.) Length(in.) Weight(oz.) FOV @ 100 yds. (ft.) MOA Warranty Other Features

711020 Bushnell ELITE 4200 RIFLESCOPE 3-9X40 MATTE MULTI-X $299.99 3-9X40 Matte Multi-X 1" 40 3.3 12.6 13 33.8-4.4 1/4 Elite Bullet-Proof Multicoated optics

711874 Leupold VX-II Rifle Scope 3-9 X 40 $299.99 3-9 X 40 Matte Duplex 1" 40 4.7 12.3 12 32.3 1/4 Lifetime N/A
Item Description Price Power Finish Reticle Tube Diameter Objective Diameter(mm) Eye Relief(in.) Length(in.) Weight(oz.) FOV @ 100 yds. (ft.) MOA Warranty Other Features


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Wish I could pick one up in the states...$399.99 and with little exchange and lower taxes it will be cheaper than if I paid $399.99 here...but does a person risk bringing it over for a savings of $220.00? It would be less than $100.00 more than a 4200 here.
 
manitou210 said:
If things change down the road and you need to sell scopes I would sooner be selling the Leupold, they just bring more money used !!!
Found this on Cabela's site to compare scopes to me your splitting hairs but I do like the better eye relief on Leupold

Riflescopes:




http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...lescopes&filterName=current&_requestid=101638


Item Description Price Power Finish Reticle Tube Diameter Objective Diameter(mm) Eye Relief(in.) Length(in.) Weight(oz.) FOV @ 100 yds. (ft.) MOA Warranty Other Features

711020 Bushnell ELITE 4200 RIFLESCOPE 3-9X40 MATTE MULTI-X $299.99 3-9X40 Matte Multi-X 1" 40 3.3 12.6 13 33.8-4.4 1/4 Elite Bullet-Proof Multicoated optics

711874 Leupold VX-II Rifle Scope 3-9 X 40 $299.99 3-9 X 40 Matte Duplex 1" 40 4.7 12.3 12 32.3 1/4 Lifetime N/A
Item Description Price Power Finish Reticle Tube Diameter Objective Diameter(mm) Eye Relief(in.) Length(in.) Weight(oz.) FOV @ 100 yds. (ft.) MOA Warranty Other Features


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They bring more money used because they cost more to begin with? FS
 
Fassteel said:
They bring more money used because they cost more to begin with? FS
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They bring more money used because they are better made scopes and Leupold is a company that stands behind their products with a great warranty. The things they have done for me over the years is actually quite unbelievable to say the least, and at no charge to top it off. I have sent in scopes that were not warranty issues but user abuse and it was obvious. Leupold fixed these scopes with no charges and no questions asked. That is service that is worth the extra money!

I have used Bushnell's so called lifetime warranty more than once and it is not what they say it is. Receiving a lesser scope than the one sent in, eight to nine months later is a huge kick in the nutz. :kickInTheNuts:
 
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Pyd said:
If you bought one and didn't like it, the omice is on you for the second one, especially if you are talking 3000 and 4000's..
Hell, I wasn't even born then...:)
Different era, different product.
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I bought the majority of my Bushnells after some early success with the 4000s. They were the earliest production, when they were still made by Light Optical. The 3000 didn't exist yet, and the Elites were a big optical step up from the Scopechiefs I was using. Encouraged by that I picked up a pile of scopes spanning 3000s through the 4200s and was feelling pretty smug until the first one broke. Then the second, third, 10th and so on.
 
The extra money your paying for a Leupold is for the name. I am a fan of the 4200's and consider them by far the best quality for the price. And to compare other scopes of the same price, hands down 4200 can't be beat.
 
I am a firm believer that peoples eyes see things differently, it seems people agree the optics are similar but the warranty is what sets them apart.
I have only had one experience with Bushnell warranty, it was with binoculars. They have a goofy clip on them that attaches them to the neck strap, one broke. I called and two days later Purolator was at my door with 4 new ones.

I am a huge flashlight enthusiast, I remember when Leupold came out with an LED flashlight, it was a good light indeed, but cost 4X more than others similar or better in quality, they rely on their name and charge accordingly.
I am certainly not against them, and I am sure in due time I will own one, but there are better options for the money.
 
I have 3 4200's and for the price I think they are absolutely excellent. There could be a tad more eye relief however.
 
I don't know which is better since the only elite series I ever used was the 3200 but I have never heard anything bad (relatively speaking) about the bushnell elite's. I was in the market recently to buy a scope and I looked at the elite 6500. I didn't really care for it as much as I thought I would. It felt oversized and bulky. I went with the Leupold VX-L 4.5-14x50. The comments from users on function and warranty issues were better. I heard that the bushnell lifetime warranty was only good in the US. I figured for a first "good" scope I couldn't go wrong with the Leupold.
 
Pyd said:
I think a lot of people buy a wall mart Bushnell and expect it to perform like 4200, then get bent out of shape when their $75 scope acts like a $75 scope.
The 3200, 4200 and 6500 are good scopes and are not typically the ones you hear about when there are troubles.
Then there are percentages, I wonder how many thousands of Bushnells are sold to 1 Leupold? Odds are there will be more reported problems.
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Also my thought. Were people knocking Bushnell making a RELEVANT comparison? Comparing the 4200 series to the Leupolds? or a Walmart special?


We have both. A side by side comparison of a VX-III 1.5-5 x 20 and a 4200 1.5-6 x 36 looking at both near and far objects at a range of magnifications and under bright and low light conditions.

I don't remember all the details but here are the general impressions, and the comments are geared towards their use as hunting scopes.

Bushnell was brighter, sharpness about equal. The "view" meaning sensitivity to eye placement, eye out of position, and what you could actually see was much better in the VX-III at 1.5x magnification but at the top end magnification was much better in the 4200.

The VX-III is a much more compact and lighter, but low light is very limited by the 20mm objective vs 36mm.

Mechanically and optically have not had problems with either, but they have not been extensively hunted or had sight adjustments constantly changed.
 
SandRoad said:
Agreed, just don't have one of those. :D I would be interested to see how the 1.75-6 compares to the 1.5-5 at the low end of the magnification range, since the 1.5-5 is superb.
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I have one on my .416 I don't see any advantage to the bell-less wonders, when I can run 40mm objectives in low rings. My straight tube scopes are all gone now.
 
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