Leupolds.........

That would depend on what kind of hunting he wishes to do, long range? short range?, both? Can't give an educated opinion without more details.

TDC

A 400 yard shot with a 4x scope is visually the same (though physically easier due to the single focal plane) as a 100 yard iron sight shot. I've done both and would again if I had to. And 400 yards is farther than 95% of hunters will ever shoot at an animal so again, the M8 4x for the win. I will concede that if he was talking real long range it would be different but if that was the case he wouldn't be discussing either of the above scopes.
 
You beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing, that 4X is enough to shoot big game well beyond 400 yd. We regularly shoot ram silhouettes from the bench at 500 meters with four power scopes, and 99% of hunters are unable to hit consistently at 300 in the field.

There is so much blather about high magnification in scopes used for hunting, and it is just that. My father-in-law killed a huge Dall ram at well over 300 yds with a Leupold 3X on a Husqvarna Featherweight in 270 Winchester when he was 72 years old. Of course he, like yourself, had shot tons of game using iron sights for the first fifty years of his life. :)

That was in 1972, and neither atmosphere nor gravity has changed much in the interim.
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For me the main difference in the scopes listed is that the 2-7X is going to be more useful if you find yourself very close to game. Generally, however, both of those scopes fill the same role. They're close to medium range, general purpose hunting scopes. I have an M8 6X on a Brno .270 win and it is a very good general purpose optic.
 
I think looky was looking for answers not questions!

Follow the thread, Looky needs to provide more details which means answering more questions before we can offer an answer to his question.

A 400 yard shot with a 4x scope is visually the same (though physically easier due to the single focal plane) as a 100 yard iron sight shot. I've done both and would again if I had to. And 400 yards is farther than 95% of hunters will ever shoot at an animal so again, the M8 4x for the win. I will concede that if he was talking real long range it would be different but if that was the case he wouldn't be discussing either of the above scopes.

I agree, but my concern is the same as Northman999 below. A lower bottom end is far more useful than a fixed power for short range shooting.

For me the main difference in the scopes listed is that the 2-7X is going to be more useful if you find yourself very close to game. Generally, however, both of those scopes fill the same role. They're close to medium range, general purpose hunting scopes. I have an M8 6X on a Brno .270 win and it is a very good general purpose optic.


TDC
 
Not often I agree with TDC but today I found an exception.

Without some details on the intended use it's hard to give any real answer.
Did you find a couple scopes at a garage sale and wonder which one is worth your $125?

What caliber? Is it going on a 22 long rifle or a 338 Lapua?
What range will the target likely be? Under 100yds or over 500yds?
Quality? in what way?
Optics clarity? They are probably very similar.
Magnification range? That ones pretty obvious.
Ruggedness? Probably the fixed power.

Shooting long range target competition? Neither.
Bush hunting? The 2-7
3-gun? maybe the 2-7 but I wouldn't use either.
DMR rifle? Wouldn't use either.
Hunting dangerous game in Africa? Neither.

The question is too vague to give any type of worthwhile answer and all your going to get is comments from guys that own one or the other claiming the one they own is the best.

Good luck mister it's none of your business.
 
I have one of each and although the 4X is sitting on a shelf awaiting a rifle to be mounted on it is not an indication of what I think of it. Between the two I prefer the M8. It is clear and meets my needs for the majority of the hunting I do, 250 - 300 yards max.

I bought a VX1 2X7X33 a few years ago to replace the M8 on my 30 06' carbine but honestly I don't see any advantage. Sometimes a simple rifle just needs a simple scope.
 
One thing not yet mentioned is that the M8 4x is a longer scope and without the power change ring there is even more room in there for scope rings on longer actions. This gives more versatility in mounting. I measured my M8 and a VXII 2x7. The M8 is almost 2" longer in the 1" tube section.

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Here is my opinion and I don't have either.

I would go with the fixed 4X , purely for durability in the field.

I think these are the types of answers kamlooky was interested in.

Now.....................If you wanted to use them to stir cake mix, it is two sided, one has a larger objective meaning it will agitate more product but the longer scope will keep your hand cleaner. :)
 
Here is my opinion and I don't have either.

I would go with the fixed 4X , purely for durability in the field.

I think these are the types of answers kamlooky was interested in.

Now.....................If you wanted to use them to stir cake mix, it is two sided, one has a larger objective meaning it will agitate more product but the longer scope will keep your hand cleaner. :)

So to mix paint, what size drill would I need to chuck that scope?

Boy oh bouy, I had no ideer what I started here.................:wave:

Thanks for all your replies.
 
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