Lever action .30-36 not closing on some resized cases

yomomma said:
You seem to be the only one who has issues wit this, maybe I'm not the one with the problem.

I hope Thrive know an a-hole is advertising for them.
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Nope, you are right! It seems that I AM the only one who seems to think that full, independent thought and conscious conjugation of those thoughts should coalesce into a meaningful and pertinent dialogue that is conducive to assisting someone through to the successful operation of their equipment.
Unfortunately, I grew up in an era where English was taught in school, spelling and grammar were corrected, and kids actually failed classes.
Reading your post, I was under the impression that you were discussing a Lee Factory Crimp die which DOES actually close around a case and did not pertain to this discussion.
My apologies if your description didn't match my interpretation, which, through every fault of my own, I filtered through English.
 
rookie wildcat said:
Nope, you are right! It seems that I AM the only one who seems to think that full, independent thought and conscious conjugation of those thoughts should coalesce into a meaningful and pertinent dialogue that is conducive to assisting someone through to the successful operation of their equipment.
Unfortunately, I grew up in an era where English was taught in school, spelling and grammar were corrected, and kids actually failed classes.
Reading your post, I was under the impression that you were discussing a Lee Factory Crimp die which DOES actually close around a case and did not pertain to this discussion.
My apologies if your description didn't match my interpretation, which, through every fault of my own, I filtered through English.
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Well, great then, go back to that era, stay there and quit bugging the rest of us.
 
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Boomer said:
Just as an afterthought, you could purchase a Redding body die. I find these things useful when I'm loading ammo that will be fired in a number of different rifles, one is sure to present cambering issues. What the Redding body die allows you to do is bump the shoulder of the case back slightly (that would be very slightly) so that the round chambers effortlessly. The adjustment is so slight, that normally no case lube is required. The sweet part is that you can tweak loaded rounds with this die, so you don't have to pull the bullet prior to resizing.
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RCBS makes, or did make, a body die like that as a trim die. Lube and run a fired case through the die. The top of the die is smooth and harder than glass. Thus, to trim the case to length, just run the case full in and file off any part of the neck that sticks out. Your file won't hurt the die and the die is so hard it won't hurt your file.
I've had one of these in 243 calibre for many years and it is a very handy supplement to reloading. Run your loaded rounds through this die and you then KNOW they are going to chamber flawlessly in your rifle.
 
H4831 said:
RCBS makes, or did make, a body die like that as a trim die. Lube and run a fired case through the die. The top of the die is smooth and harder than glass. Thus, to trim the case to length, just run the case full in and file off any part of the neck that sticks out. Your file won't hurt the die and the die is so hard it won't hurt your file.
I've had one of these in 243 calibre for many years and it is a very handy supplement to reloading. Run your loaded rounds through this die and you then KNOW they are going to chamber flawlessly in your rifle.
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I had a couple of those things kicking around, but the idea of trimming case length with a file never appealed to me, so I never used them. I didn't realize that they resized as well, but it only makes sense I suppose, as you wouldn't want the case loose and flopping around as you attempted to trim it. I think I still might have one in .300 Winchester kicking around here somewhere.

Any minute now we should hear about headspace issues and short case life.
 
Boomer said:
Any minute now we should hear about headspace issues and short case life.
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You are a mind reader.
I just about put in an answer to that, then I decided to wait until it was asked!

You can answer it when it comes, and I won't.
 
Many years ago, RCBS made 30-06 & .308 dies in "Small base" & Ultra Small base". The Small base dies were reccomended for pump & semi-autos. The Ultra Small base were specifically for Browning lever guns. They might still make them??? My small base dies in 308, 30-06 and 300 Win Mag date to the 1970's.
Mike
 
I have a blr in 30-06 ..... and I have a set of small base rcbs dies .... and I have used them a few times .

but they are not my first choice

for this gun , I prefer a normal set of hornady dies , and I size all my brass that has been previously fired in this rifle , so only the 2/3's to maybe 3/4's of the neck has only been resized , nothing more .

the rifle functions perfectly .

my feeling is the small base die works the brass too much . and at the very least it always seems I endlessly trimming brass when I use them .

if I was using once fired brass from a rifle with a loose chamber , then I might run them through a small base die ..... assuming a full resizing in a " normal " die didn't fix things .
 
You may need to use a small base sizing die instead of just a standard full length die.
A small based die usually makes reloads work better in lever and semi auto actions.
 
"...a slight unevenness about the shoulder..." Sounds like the die is too low and the case neck and shoulders are getting pushed down. Shoulders get pushed out.
 
As has been said already the shell holder should be hitting the die solidly when resizing. Check each round to be sure it does. It's really easy to think it has when it has not. Pushing the shoulder back can take some force.
The other issue that comes to mind is that of crimping. Using a 30-06, I can see no reason to crimp AT ALL. If you have good neck tension, that should be all you need. The issue with crimping, is that when it's done over zealously, it can bulge the case slightly, resulting in hard to chamber rounds.
H4831, I have, and use a 308 RCBS file trim die for my wife's BLR. Very tight chambered rifle. It can be a fussy little prick.
 
I run hornady dies, have read many times that there tolerances are a little bit tighter, perhaps overworking the brass, but they should always fit in any chamber. Might be the internet bunnies running around but doesn't the BLR have one of the tightest tolerances for headspace being fairly unforgiving to oversized or not exactly SAMMI spec ammo. In otherwords, its like the set the barrel right against a "GO" gauge, not a "field" gauge in regards to headspace?
 
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