Lever action vs Semi Auto

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Fellow gun nuts!

Recently I picked up my first Bolt action CZ 455 Canadian. I love the action and the feel and now like all of us I have to think about what's next.

I am sticking with.22lr (mainly for cost of ammo) and now want to see what's y all opinion on lever action vs semi auto.

Looking to those who have both to say why they use one over the other more and which model would you get?
 
I've got a Browning bl22 and a marlin 60. The Browning is a fun a little rifle to shoot but I would take the marlin over the Browning any day. It's alot more accurate ,reliable and I just enjoy shooting it more. I find if you baby the Browning when cycling it sometimes jams. I know their not all like that. Honestly though go and handle a bunch of different ones and shoot them if you can, and see what fits you better and which rifle you enjoy shooting more.
 
I've a Henry Frontier lever action (H001T) with the octagonal barrel. About 4500 rounds through it, it's a heck of a fun gun to shoot. Takes any ammo, reliable and accurate (not Olympics-level, of course, but minute-of-squirrel at 50y). I put a cheap fixed-power 4x Simmons scope on it because of my eyes. I think I can count the failures to feed on one hand.

In the end, it depends what you want to use it for. Semi auto is a lot of fun (I have a Beretta CX4) because there's something very pleasant in staying "in battery" and not having to actuate anything at all (be it bolt, lever or pump) in between shots. But semi auto is by definition not as accurate as a repeater.
 
Since you already have a manually repeating .22, I would go semi for the next one. But then again the overwhelming majority of the guns I own are semi, so I may be a little biased :)
 
Well its rime fire so typical rim fire accuracy. Go with what ever action you want. Unless you have a specific purpose. Mind you even then it is personal preference.

Do you like to hunt ?
Is it for the range?

I like bolts for general hunting.
Lever if I know im going to be walking and taking standing/kneeling shots.
Semi, nah.

For the range bolt or semi. Dont have to take it off the rest ever time.

Personal op
 
If you are unsure, wait for Cabelas to have another sale on the Savage 64 FXP package (semi auto now with 3-9 x 40 Weaver scope, and iron sights). Good original price at $200, better at normal sale price of $170, even better at $150 sometimes. Overall a decent cheap plinker. Cannot go wrong with it. They are a fun and pretty accurate rifle for what you pay for.
 
I had a ruger 10/22, a marlin 60, a Henry lever and a Henry pump. I now have just the two Henry's. The accuracy out of the marlin was the best by maybe a quarter inch. But you can't beat the fun factor from the lever or pump. And being able to fire any and all ammo out of both makes them the easy winner for me.
 
Do what I keep doing~just buy another bolt gun. :)

Seriously though~whatever action you prefer=give it a whirl. I don't like tube mags, and I hated cleaning my Winchester 9422 (lever) when I had it. Semis are a PITA to clean too, when compared to bolt guns..which are also the most accurate. :) My collection is all bolt guns, with 1 semi, and that's a Marlin 795. I like it enough (and it's accurate enough) to deserve a nicer stock, but I have no issues with the tupperware one really, and I only pull that gun out about 2-3 times a year anyway.

So, in spite of having what I consider to be a few very nice bolt guns, I STILL can't help but want to try other ones I either have never owned, or, that are the same models that I have but maybe done-up differently. Sometimes, I get over the urge and consider upgrading a scope I have instead. In all cases, adding a semi or a lever are never part of the equation for me personally...but I'd rather have a decent (inexpensive) semi than an overpriced lever gun.
 
I have sold all my levers and pumps, I have 1 semi and a half dozen bolts. My semi is accurate but cost a lot ( to me) . I shoot a lot of gophers so I use a bolt & semi. All in all it’s preference.
 
Does the lever have the advantage over semi's on subsonic ammunition?

*scratch* what kind of advantage did you have in mind? Accuracy? Noise? It's a .22 with a .22's recoil: the movement of the semi's action isn't that loud in the first place. A lever-action cycling isn't exactly silent (if you try to slow-motion it, you're likely to cause a misfeed) :d
 
Get one of everything in .22, semi, bolt, lever, and pump. Then go to 17HMR, 22Mag and finally 17WSM. You can NEVER have too many fun rifles!!! I tell my wife that all the time!!
 
*scratch* what kind of advantage did you have in mind? Accuracy? Noise? It's a .22 with a .22's recoil: the movement of the semi's action isn't that loud in the first place. A lever-action cycling isn't exactly silent (if you try to slow-motion it, you're likely to cause a misfeed) :d

I'd venture a guess that the reference was to semi autos not properly cycling with subsonics. I know I have one that will shoot and eject CCI quiets, but does not kick the bolt back enough to grab the next round. It also doesn't do this reliably, as maybe 1/20 rounds it's likely to jam before ejecting.
 
Fellow gun nuts!

Recently I picked up my first Bolt action CZ 455 Canadian. I love the action and the feel and now like all of us I have to think about what's next.

I am sticking with.22lr (mainly for cost of ammo) and now want to see what's y all opinion on lever action vs semi auto.

Looking to those who have both to say why they use one over the other more and which model would you get?

You could swing over to Browning BLR and SA 22 as well.

But, they get expensive fast..the Brownings that is.

Nice guns though....or you could go back to CZ Bolt Actions in a 452 and a 453.

Then the 452 Fare Well Edition, but again the money gets really silly what some are asking for them.

Stick with the Lever and SA,lol.

Confused yet ?

Rob
 
I don't hunt (unless that piece of paper is trying to get away, lol) so I shoot for the fun of shooting. That means I enjoy working an action to ready each shot. I love the feel of working a bolt, or a lever. To me, it's all part of the process. I own several 22lr riffles including a bolt action Savage, a lever action Henry and a Ruger 10/22 semi. Out of the 3, it's the Henry that makes it to the range the most, followed by the Savage. In fact I don't often shoot the Ruger. Don't get me wrong, I still like shooting the Ruger, it's just that given the way I like to shoot, I want to work an action between each shot.
 
OP, we are all different as to likes and ho hums and dislikes. If we weren't, everyone would want my wife.

I can fully understand trying to get the lowdown from the experience of others. The thing is, you're the one that needs to be pleased with your choice and I suspect you already know what it is you like.

There are a lot of options out there for semis and relatively few options for lever actions.

My advice to you is to go to your LGS and ask to handle both types and choose from there.

I would also suggest that one thing to take into consideration is the quality of the firearm you choose. Some of the cheaper Norinco knock off types actually function quite reliably but don't expect the accuracy out of them that you get from your CZ. Then again, there is a relative unknown in Canada which is made in Mexico, the Mendoza Puma, which is IMHO one of the best bangs for your buck out there.

I like semi auto 22 rifles and have a couple to prove it. Both are relatively expensive in comparison to the Norincos and some of the others out there. One which I purchased from the EE on this site is a milsurp lookalike MP44, which is a dream to shoot as it's so heavy it doesn't even raise the muzzle when fired. It feeds flawlessly and shoots better than my aging eyes let it. The other is a Browning BAR, tube fed. It's now close to 30 years old and it doesn't care which ammo you fill the tube with it's always reliable and consistently accurate. Of course, both of these rifles shoot the different brands of ammo to slightly different points of impact.

Lever actions are another "you get what you pay for" item. I recently tried a Henry and IMHO it wasn't worth what I paid for it. Beautiful wood and finish, functioned very well with different makes of ammo but accuracy was mediocre at best. Still it was a good plinker out in the field. I had a Winchester 94/22 as well and liked it but the son of a very good friend liked it a lot more than I did and seeing as he tries to help out the old man down the block regularly I felt it should go under last year's Christmas tree for him. That leaves me with a BLR22. It's a great little rifle. Feeds flawlessly, accurate with any brand of ammo butttt not cheap.

The next and likely most pertinent consideration for your personal decision is "what are you going to use the rifle for?" If you're looking for something to make cans bounce, shoot at chunks of wood in a creek to practice on moving targets, shoot gophers in the spring or shoot the heads off grouse, you're likely best option is to stick with your bolt actions. Mind you both of my Brownings are easily accurate enough for all around shooting.

If the cost of ammo is a factor, then go for the lever action. I find with the semis in the field I can go through a brick of ammo in a few hours easily, especially with the MP44-22. The Pietta 50 I sold to my Stepson with the 50 round drum was quite accurate and well made but had a horrendous appetite for ammo. I had to be really careful to clean it after a couple of drums of quick shooting or it would start to get lead fouling.

In the end, just get the rifle you think you will have the most fun with. It's all a learning curve, which is a major part of the fun.
 
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