LF Browning M2 Side plate plans
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- calgary alberta
Call me at 403-277-7786
We should talk
Cheers
Rick
We should talk
Cheers
Rick
alpha niner
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Just a question about the M2 for you dealers since you guys are here together:
1. What is it classified here in Canada and in USA?
2. Someone said it somewhere that it isn't exportable or something as a whole but what about a kit?
3. Who here in Canada can assemble a M2?
1. What is it classified here in Canada and in USA?
2. Someone said it somewhere that it isn't exportable or something as a whole but what about a kit?
3. Who here in Canada can assemble a M2?
Blastattack
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- Winnipeg MB
Homegunsmith.com has both the Left and Right side plates posted in their library.
Thanx. Are those for the semi version? I cannot seem to access them.
You need to be a paid up subscriber to get into their library.
If you scrounge around the web, like as not you will find the same files elsewhere, either as a zip file collection, or as stand alone files.
As to being for a semi, likely not. I figure if you are able to make the plates, you are likely able to mod the plans to make them semi-only, no?
FWIW I got a nice set of plans as the first hit when I searched M2 side plate on Google images. Back linking up the file tree found me a directory with a bunch of good stuff in it.
Cheers
Trev
If you scrounge around the web, like as not you will find the same files elsewhere, either as a zip file collection, or as stand alone files.
As to being for a semi, likely not. I figure if you are able to make the plates, you are likely able to mod the plans to make them semi-only, no?
FWIW I got a nice set of plans as the first hit when I searched M2 side plate on Google images. Back linking up the file tree found me a directory with a bunch of good stuff in it.
Cheers
Trev
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- Location
- calgary alberta
All 3 questions do not matter. We spent a TON of money on both 1919s and M2s doing EXACTLY what TNW did by replacing the side plate and trigger, modifying the bolt, yadda, yadda, yadda. We waited 2 years for the RCMP lab to classify these and on both counts they were classified as PROHIBITED, the reason stated was they were deemed "converted auto" which frankly although I feel it is crap given that TNW has the identical guns in this country that are classed as NON restricted.
We were counseled by William Etter ( guru in charge at RCMP lab) that if we were to make the 5 sides of the box that comprises the action, the rest was good to go.
We have side plates for the M2s already built to TNWs specs. Be happy to sell some.
Exporting the parts from the US is problematic as they are parts designed for "weapons of war"
SO now we are debating whether to invest many more thousands of dollars into making 1919s and M2s, I think this answers question 3 quite well.
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Looks like the RCMP are up to their old shenanigans again. How can they deem an already approved design as no good? They seem to be making a habit of changing their minds on approved firearm designs. I also wonder how this will affect the other dealers on the forum who were going to be selling the TNW M37, the TNW 1919 and the TNW M3HB. It would seem to make sense that those guns would also not be allowed as they are not made with newly made parts except for the RSP and firing mechanism. In the case of the M3HB they might also make a new trunnion, but the rest of the parts are original surplus.
Please keep us posted ATR with any updates on this situation?
Please keep us posted ATR with any updates on this situation?
alpha niner
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Hmm....shame but thanks for the answers for the newbie around...so for the private citizens that "have them" already in Canada, what do they have?
There's also talks that North Sylva has "40" of them in the country already BS floating around...?
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The conversation I had with Mr. Etter is that the TNW guns that were in country now were going to be left alone. Further imports will not happen unless TNW elects to manufacture all new "actions" because what the new thinking is is that what TNW is doing is making converted autos by latest interpretation of Canadian laws.
Speaking with Tim (TNW's owner) his feeling is that being forced to make the entire "box" would make the guns prohibitively expensive. I agree so this is why we are taking a breath to see what we can do to try and keep costs down, but it ain't lookin good.
Speaking with Tim (TNW's owner) his feeling is that being forced to make the entire "box" would make the guns prohibitively expensive. I agree so this is why we are taking a breath to see what we can do to try and keep costs down, but it ain't lookin good.
So basically, because the guns you submitted for inspection would have your companies name on them as the manufacturer and not TNW's, they were not exempt, even though they were done to TNW's specs?
This is the part that erks me. One person can interpret the law one way, while another person interprets it another, and that is within the RCMP. That doesn't instill trust in an entity, like the RCMP, that is already not trusted by the law abiding firearms community.
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The trunnions are the real issue. While they aren't NASA-esque, they are a rather decent chunk of not-so-cheap steel with a decent number of operations to complete.
The other four components are fairly mickey mouse in comparison.
The other four components are fairly mickey mouse in comparison.
alpha niner
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Are there any other dealers/firearms that make M2HBs in the states that can make the RCMP lab 
and make more Canadians more ? During my research, I discovered this place http://gryphos.com/index.htm that gets them from here http://www.dragonm50.com/index.cfm ... maybe these could work? Just throwing it out there...*dreaming of fantastic builds*
and make more Canadians more ? During my research, I discovered this place http://gryphos.com/index.htm that gets them from here http://www.dragonm50.com/index.cfm ... maybe these could work? Just throwing it out there...*dreaming of fantastic builds* Are there any other dealers/firearms that make M2HBs in the states that can make the RCMP lab
Unfortunately that company follows BATF standards for their builds, which allows them to use modified surplus parts and newly made right side plate for semi-only guns. This would mean their guns would also not be allowed because they do not meet the RCMPs new standards.
Building a gun from newly made parts to meet the RCMP's new and idiotic guidelines could be done, but I would estimate the guns would end up costing $15,000 to $18,000.
alpha niner
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...dream killer
haha j/k but it is a shame...been browsing and researching all the possible stands and mounts and adapters and all for a twin set up...oh well moving back down to 308 set ups...dream killer
HEHE... Sorry about that. You can spend almost as much on all the accessories and mounts for the belt-feds, then you can on the gun itself. It is a viscous addiction. I just wish I had more money to afford to feed my addiction. LOL
Luckily the M2HB is one of those addictions I didn't get hooked on.
alpha niner
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I'm just dreaming the perfect 50 bmg combo and the M2HB in a twin set up would finalize it once and for all alongside a M96 Windruner and a Micor 50 with like 10k of 50 bmg for $30K to supply my babies.
... that is if i won the lottery that is...I'm just dreaming the perfect 50 bmg combo and the M2HB in a twin set up would finalize it once and for all alongside a M96 Windruner and a Micor 50 with like 10k of 50 bmg for $30K to supply my babies.
I hear ya there. "Come on lucky numbers!!!!!"
