LF: most economic reloading supply sources (9mm/223)

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Hey all,
Looking to make the least expensive bulk style reloads for 223 and 9mm.
Could you share your list of supplies and where you get them?
What's your cost/round?
Would normally get from budgetshooter but he's closed for summer.

Thanks
 
Western metal for projectiles.free shipping at $300.
Higginsons for powder. Free shipping at 20 lbs or more.

Can't beat free shipping :)
 
Western Metal Inc. - $300+ free shipping - Fiocchi primers and CamPro projectiles.
Firearms Outlet Canada - $500+ free shipping - CamPro projectiles.
Tenda Canada - $600+ free shipping - CCI primers and CamPro projectiles.
Bass Pro Shops - pickup - powder (price matched).
Hummason Manufacturing Ltd. - pickup - powder.
Lawry Shooting Sports Inc. - pickup - powder.

My 9mm cost including tax...

Brass - Free
Primer - Fiocchi - 0.042
Projectile - CamPro 147gr - 0.119
Powder - WSF 4.0gr - 0.016

Total per round: 0.177
 
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campro projectiles from either canada ammo or western metal. Free shipping for orders >200$ or >300$.
For 9mm, 115gr is 10¢/bullet. Marginally more expensive for heavier bullets.
dominion primers from canada ammo (4¢/primer currently, they might get it back to 3 or 3.5¢) or fiocchi from WM (3.8¢).
Powder I got TightGroup at 31$/pound from Western metal (it's still in stock at that price). Prices vary wildly in powders, but Higginson's 20 lbs threshold for free shipping is too much for me. So I follow sales at CA or WM, X-reload or local sales. Keep in mind that 1 pound of TG will make more than 1800 rounds. CA also sells bulk 700X powder for 25$/pound, so that's cheaper, and also cheaper than higginson I believe.

So total (115gr 9mm, assuming you already have brass, everything from WM):
primer: 3.8¢
bullet: 9.9¢
powder: 1.7¢
Total: 15.4¢/ round, or 7.70$/box plus GST. As you can see, bullet is 2/3 of the cost, it's the only place where you could realistically save a few pennies.



For 223, the cost of powder is relatively higher. If you suppose 25grn of varget, that's 280 rounds/lbs, and varget is kind of expensive at around ~45$/lbs, so 16¢/round. Again, suppose you already have the brass:
projectile: 60$/500, or 12¢ (campro at CA, they're currently out of stock but they'll get more. I don't think WM has cheap 223 bullets)
primer: 4¢
powder: 16¢
Total: 32¢/round.
If you don't have 223 brass, you can get once-fired for quite cheap on the EE, or for no hassle, 200 1-fired for 15$ at western metal. It's another 7.5¢, which takes you to 39.5¢ per round. If you want to save money, you're wasting time, cause you can get steel-cased (Barnaul or MFS) for less than that at SFRC, when they have them in stock.

The real saving will come later this year when/if Canada Ammo comes through with bulk 4064 at 25$ or 30$/lbs.

You won't save that much on 9mm and 223. They are the most commonly used ammos, and available in bulk, so making your own will only save you marginal money. As soon as you go to other calibres, you start saving a lot more. My full power 44 magnum cost about 30¢/round to make compared to 1$ for new production. I would save a lot even if I bought new starline brass each shot. In large rifle ammos, the savings are even larger: It cost me about 1.25$ to make a 300wsm compared to almost 3$ for store-bought.
 
Thanks for the solid write up. Was hoping there was a secret supply shop which would allow substantial savings but for these calibers guess it's just not worth it.
Now where to get the cheapest pre-rolled rounds? ;)
 
Thanks for the solid write up. Was hoping there was a secret supply shop which would allow substantial savings but for these calibers guess it's just not worth it.
Now where to get the cheapest pre-rolled rounds? ;)

Not worth it? lmao. That depends on how much you shoot.

Cheapest reputable factory 9mm ammo (approximately $279.99 plus tax) = $316 x 10 per year = $3160. I roll my own (to my liking) for $1770, which leave me in the black by $1390. That means that in 1 year I've saved enough money to pay for the press, casefeeder, and wet tumbler.

Some will say that they don't reload to save money but I certainly do, plus I find it calming.
 
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Not worth it? lmao. That depends on how much you shoot.

Cheapest reputable factory 9mm ammo (approximately $279.99 plus tax) = $316 x 10 per year = $3160. I roll my own (to my liking) for $1770, which leave me in the black by $1390. That means that in 1 year I've saved enough money to pay for the press, casefeeder, and wet tumbler.

Some will say that they don't reload to save money but I certainly do, plus I find it calming.


Yes,
And I'm making Hornady vmax .223 for the same cost at bulk FMJ .AE.
That vmax is going for $28 a box of 20.

I never use FMJ as the hornady vmax is about the same cost,for me.
 
Not worth it? lmao. That depends on how much you shoot.

Cheapest reputable factory 9mm ammo (approximately $279.99 plus tax) = $316 x 10 per year = $3160. I roll my own (to my liking) for $1770, which leave me in the black by $1390. That means that in 1 year I've saved enough money to pay for the press, casefeeder, and wet tumbler.

Some will say that they don't reload to save money but I certainly do, plus I find it calming.

How much time do you spend making 10k ammos in a year? Personnaly I don't have to work that many hours to make 1390$.

If I made that much more money making ammos (9mm and 223) compared to working at my day job, I would seriously think about getting a CNR licence and start selling reloaded ammos as a part time job, eventually transitionning to a full time job.


Yes,
And I'm making Hornady vmax .223 for the same cost at bulk FMJ .AE.
That vmax is going for $28 a box of 20.

I never use FMJ as the hornady vmax is about the same cost,for me.

Yeah but OP clearly wants the cheapest possible stuff. Probably for plinking with an equally inexpensive AR. Your V-max is more like the high-end stuff.

Don't get me wrong guys, there's a lot of saving to be made by reloading, but since it takes the same time to make 1 round no matter which calibre (rifle and pistol are different, but it takes me the same time to make a 9mm as it does to make a 50AE), the savings will be much larger in the high-cost round (like large calibre rifles, larger pistol magnums or high-end 223) than in the small plinking rounds.
 
I just reload for the hobby, it's my favourite pass time. It really clears my mind, almost like meditation. I reload a lot, and have a pretty decent reloading room. If I took a wage and broke down my expenses
For the tools and supplies. I think I can make a high end 9 mm round for about 3 bucks. But I think if I live for another 110 years I might break even. It's my happy place.
 
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