LF: Weed spraying implement for ATV to rent or borrow.

lildave

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Does anyone know where I can rent or :) borrow at sprayer,( Ottawa area ) to put on the ATV or tow behind the ATV, for spraying my food plot area.

Walking around with a bottle of round up is a pain in the A$$.

Any Ottawa area nuts have something I could borrow for an afternoon? :)

Dave
 
If you are an OFAH club member, there are plot mules and other implements available for FREE for your use. Check out your local OFAH Zone for details.

Doug
 
The area is probably about 75' x 200'. The first year I did it, I did a much smaller area carrying around a jub of Roundup in a sprayer that you pump and carry.
The second year I made a larger area, last year I did not do, this year and I am going larger. The area is currently covered with all the weeds and growth and laying flat on the ground from the snow packing it down.

Not sure what I should do, should I start now by spraying it with Roundup? Do I plot mule or rototill the whole thing? then spray....

not sure.

I found a tow behind sprayer for rent for 30.00 for 4 hours.

Dave
 
My suggestion..if you can safely do so....burn it. That will get rid of the thick matted growth from last year.
(unless you have access to some heavy farm equipment,-one way disc or plow).
You are going to have to time the spraying with your planting schedule. What are you planting?
 
lildave said:
The area is probably about 75' x 200'. The first year I did it, I did a much smaller area carrying around a jub of Roundup in a sprayer that you pump and carry.
The second year I made a larger area, last year I did not do, this year and I am going larger. The area is currently covered with all the weeds and growth and laying flat on the ground from the snow packing it down.

Not sure what I should do, should I start now by spraying it with Roundup? Do I plot mule or rototill the whole thing? then spray....

not sure.

I found a tow behind sprayer for rent for 30.00 for 4 hours.

Dave
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"Not sure what I should do, should I start now by spraying it with Roundup? Do I plot mule or rototill the whole thing? then spray...." NO... If you're going the Round Up route, here's what to do.

Spray Round Up 7-10 days before tilling the soil. 2L of round up diluted in 80L of water per acre (1acre = 208'X208'). For best results spray on a sunny day with little to no wind. Avoid spraying when it's raining or expecting rain in the days to come. Round up is a herbicide that kills on/when contact with the plant, and for optimal results you want to spray the plants when they are in their growth stage. The best time of the year to do this is in spring. You want to avoid spraying on cool/cold days cause the plants are typically in a dormant stage. One last point, seeing how round up kills on contact it is totally useless to spray the ground/earth/tilled soil where the plants lay. To work, the herbicide must be sprayed directly on the vegetation.
 
Goose25

#1. The "No rain" window for some formulations of Round-Up is as little as 30 minutes.

#2. Totally agree with the rest of your post...that's why I advised burning the thatch now...wait till he is ready to plant (soil temp-condition, seed type)...Then before planting R-U the re-growth. :)
 
yes you're right, roundup is rain proof.

I mentionned the 2L:80L ratio, just wanted to clairify that is for the roundup concentrated formula.
 
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Goose25 said:
yes you're right, roundup is rain proof.
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That's not what I said....I said for RU to be effective, the post-application, rain free period should be minimum 30 min(depending on formulation). It does not require days of rain free weather to work.

I also think it is a very unwise decision for anyone to use an open cab, tow-behind sprayer for herbicide application. Most people would not have the appropriate safety gear.
 
Goose25 said:
yes you're right, roundup is rain proof.

I mentionned the 2L:80L ratio, just wanted to clairify that is for the roundup concentrated formula.
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Thanks for clarifying that, for a while there I thought I had done it wrong a in the past, when I took at jug of roundup out there. The one that comes with the spray hose attached, I just emptied the liquid into a larger carry around spump sprayer and sprayed it on straight.

I guess I need to find somewhere that carries the conentrate, and mix it with lots of water, then suit up and tow it behind the atv and spray the plot area.

Dave
 
Round-up requires about 2 minutes on the plant before a gentle rain to work effectively. You can spray it anytime of the growing season on actively growing plants. There is some vegetation that it will not kill. Check here:

http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/app23/getcataloginfo?subject=product&view=catalog

Also....it's not very toxic. You don't need to dress up like you're handling the hantavirus or something. Just wear gloves and spray it with the breeze. Just common sense.
 
lildave said:
I guess I need to find somewhere that carries the conentrate, and mix it with lots of water, then suit up and tow it behind the atv and spray the plot area.

Dave
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That doesn't work either, you need to mix it at a specific ratio. Download the info material from Monsanto and read up on what it does and when to apply. I use to see the concentrate at TSC, not sure but you may need a pesticide license for the concentrate.
 
armorman said:
Round-up requires about 2 minutes on the plant before a gentle rain to work effectively. You can spray it anytime of the growing season on actively growing plants. There is some vegetation that it will not kill. Check here:

http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/app23/getcataloginfo?subject=product&view=catalog

Also....it's not very toxic. You don't need to dress up like you're handling the hantavirus or something. Just wear gloves and spray it with the breeze. Just common sense.
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Not sure where you're getting your info but I've never seen 2 minute rainfast on any Roundup label.

Beefman is right, the newer formulations require about 30 minutes on the plant prior to a rainfall to be effective.

Roundup is a non-selective herbicide, which means it will control all actively growing vegetation but in general is more effective on grasses than broadleaf type weeds.

It is not very toxic. However, you should still wear rubber gloves and protective eyewear, especially when handling the concentrated product (mixing). Read the label for more specifics.

75 X 200 feet is about a third of an acre. You could spray this size of an area with a bac-pac type sprayer.
 
Legs in the Air said:
Not sure where you're getting your info but I've never seen 2 minute rainfast on any Roundup label.

Beefman is right, the newer formulations require about 30 minutes on the plant prior to a rainfall to be effective.

Roundup is a non-selective herbicide, which means it will control all actively growing vegetation but in general is more effective on grasses than broadleaf type weeds.

It is not very toxic. However, you should still wear rubber gloves and protective eyewear, especially when handling the concentrated product (mixing). Read the label for more specifics.

75 X 200 feet is about a third of an acre. You could spray this size of an area with a bac-pac type sprayer.
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I spray approximately 5000 acres of that stuff yearly. The rain fastness is there to allow the glyphosate component to stick to the plant. After it sticks to the plant (which generally takes a couple of minutes) it can rain all it wants too. If you don't believe me.....spray your front lawn with it and them immediately wash it off with your garden hose. Let me know your results......lol!

Yes, gloves, eye wear, and a long sleeved shirt and pants are needed.
 
Goose25 said:
lildave,

So what are you planning on planting?
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Well that is still to be decided. The first year I did a really small plot using Bishops Fall Field of dreams. The second year I used those seeds as well as Wildlife forage mix. ( got some nice turnips, and saw definite sign of deer consumption.

This past weekend I frost seeded an area of the property that is is bare of weeds and snow, using Bishops Canadian Shield mix.

Two years ago, I actually planted corn seeds I got from a farmer in my family, ( roundup resistant and bug resistant ), they got to about 2 inches tall, and something dug up the shoot and ate the seed off of the bottom. He told me its common for birds to do this. Especially geese.

So I am not sure what I am going to plant, but I want to try to get it ready anyway. I may get some seed from Steve at backyardwildlife.ca when he is at the Carp valley sportsman show in 1st week of April and I may plant some garden type plants as well, like pumpkins, corn, carrots. Or I may get a bunch of RU safe Soy and plant that.

Also I am getting 4 apple trees from Steve, to plant on the property as well.

All depends on available time on my hands.

Dave
 
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